How to edit bibliography and in text cites

edited July 21, 2020
Can I edity bibliography or citations? For example i need to citate in apa style in that way : Vázquez (1999) not (Vázquez, 1999) ¿Can i edit that?. Sometimes in bibliography says "retrieved from:" I am spanish wirter and need to changue to "disponible en" or "recuperado de". Althougth i have to changue some "." or "," to adecuate the citation stiles to the papers where i send. ¿Is this posible in zotero?

  • 1. Please use a proper thread title (you can edit)
    2. You can suppress the author for your in-text citations to achieve Vazques (1999). See Customizing Citations here: https://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_plugin_usage
    3. Which journal are you submitting to?
  • 1.- Thanks i will edit title, really it wirte by itself.

    2.- I will check.

    3.- I really dont know i am gosthwirter and my client publish in whole papers in springer, in CIESAS in La palabra y el hombre. Sometimes we require manual edit citation especifically to changue point marks "." instead "," or to supress "()" in years. I know that not "official in apa stilye" but are editorial requeriments in paper
  • edited July 21, 2020
    3.
    I see. Supressing the author is a different thing to the citation style.
    We have a large database (more than 8000 styles) to choose from and certainly all the Springer styles here: https://www.zotero.org/styles

    a. If a style is missing we can make such a style and get it added (has to be for a journal/publishing house though). That also helps other writers when they want to submit to that journal.

    b. If you need specific help for a specific style that you want then you have to specifically ask. That means telling us which citation style you're trying to edit and what you want to achieve exactly. In the form of "current output" vs "wanted output" is the easiest and fastest way for us to help.
  • Yes, it sounds like your journal doesn’t actually use APA style. If you can describe what changes you need and show some example citations, that would be helpful.
  • Look for example, this is one paper citation i dont know what paper, because my client dont say me

    Córdoba Olivares, F. R. (1975)"Ciclo de vida y cambio social entre los zoques de Ocotepec y Chapultenango, Chiapas", en A. Villa Rojas(1975)Los zoques de Chiapas, México: Instituto Nacional Indigenista, pp.187-217.

    Frazer, J. (1890)La rama dorada: magia y religión, México: F.C.E.

    Halbwachs, M. (2002) “¿Fragmentos de la memoria colectiva?” Atenea digital. No.2, disponible en línea: www.bib.uab.es(Consultada el 19 de abril de 2004).

    In other escenarios the same references comes in that way


    Córdoba, F. R. (1975). "Ciclo de vida y cambio social entre los zoques de Ocotepec y Chapultenango, Chiapas". En A. Villa Rojas(1975)Los zoques de Chiapas, México: Instituto Nacional Indigenista, pp.187-217.

    Frazer, J. (1890). La rama dorada: magia y religión, México: F.C.E.

    Halbwachs, M. (2002). “¿Fragmentos de la memoria colectiva?” Atenea digital. No.2. Recuperado de: www.bib.uab.es(Consultada el 19 de abril de 2004).


    As you can see the diferences are tremendously "minimal" and i think if i manual edit i can solve it, because is i ask if zotero have manual edit
  • Yeah, that’s not APA style at all. It’s closer to Chicago, but very different. I suggest you just request a new style be made:
    https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/wiki/Requesting-Styles
  • And while the new stile is ready
    Can i manual editing?

    Sorry i have very bad english
  • edited July 21, 2020
    Feel free to write in Spanish.

    Please read the link I gave to see how to request a style
  • Gracias. Entiendo que en el link puedo solilcitar el estilo. Dos preguntas.

    ¿Cuánto demora el proceso de solicitud de estilo?

    Mientras ustedes elaboran el estilo ¿Puedo hacer edición manual? ¿Puedo tomar un estilo parecido y hacer cambios en mi procesador de texto?

  • There is no point in making manuel edits if you then use a different citation style after and all your changes will get overwritten again.

    How long it takes? I am the person making most styles. A few days if I'm motivated.

  • Right, so just to clarify this more: you'd just use any style that looks similar and ignore the ways in which it isn't quite right until you have the right style (which will then fix formatting, presumably).
  • Thanks, Damnnation, this clarify me and answer my cuestion. If i use a stilye every manual edit will be overwirting.
    Adam, I am ex-citavi user because is too much heavy in my system. And one problem whith my clients is the stiles have a litle diferences whith papers requeriments because in some papers have personal editorial criteria, not always acoord to APA. As you can see, the stile i show in my previous post not are APA but in a paper is considered APA.
  • @aktiffiso

    You may not have understood what was said about the great benefit of Zotero. Within reason, you can write using any style and later very easily automatically change to a different bibliographic style.

    You shouldn't manually edit within a Zotero citation style field because those fields hold information that is mostly agnostic to any particular style. Editing active Zotero fields will damage Zotero's ability to use the edited field. In other words, you can change to a different citation style in a document that still contains Zotero field codes. It is mostly as simple as selecting a different style from a drop-down list.

    The only difficulty I've found is switching between a numbered style like Vancouver to an author-date style like APA or Chicago. [The same issue exists when switching in the opposite direction.] I likely will want to edit some sentences to improve prose style after the radical automatic conversion of citation style.

    I think that it is important for a "ghostwriter" to know the journal to which the manuscript will be submitted. This is important for citation style but also writing or prose styles.
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