Upgrade StorageSuppressing the URL for digitised books - Chicago 17th ed. full note
Yet another URL question. How can I (or someone with more expertise) edit CMoS 17th ed. to omit URLs *for books*?
I have to use Chicago full note in my PhD thesis, and I'm citing large numbers of primary sources which have been digitised and accessed via an online repository. Because the direct URLs are very long and cumbersome, I've been asked to omit them and just cite the repository instead (Eighteenth Century Collections Online, to be precise.)
I need to retain the URL in Zotero so that I can reliably access the thing again, and I'm very reluctant to spend days amending hundreds of records manually by moving it to the notes field.
These sources are digitised books - if I want all the relevant publishing information to come through, I can't tell Zotero they're an article or a web page. I've trawled these forums and had a play with the visual editor following the instructions at the bottom of this thread: https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/comment/328020#Comment_328020 . Unfortunately, while this procedure might work for articles, it doesn't seem to work for books. In the visual editor, where the example citation is changed to a book, there is no URL field for me to delete.
My very inexpert impression from the visual editor, which may be totally wrong, is that the base style doesn't think that URLs exist for books at all. It's as though when it sees the data in a field it doesn't believe in, it includes it regardless - because it can't be suppressed, because it doesn't exist. But I don't know how to enlighten it in this regard.
I can follow basic instructions with something like the visual editor, but even having looked at the instructions, I would have no idea where to begin with the full plain text editing business. The "Include URLs" tickbox in the Preferences menu has no effect, presumably because it likewise assumes that URLs only apply to articles.
Any pearls of wisdom? Really hoping someone can advise on this, as I've been banging my head against it to no avail...
I have to use Chicago full note in my PhD thesis, and I'm citing large numbers of primary sources which have been digitised and accessed via an online repository. Because the direct URLs are very long and cumbersome, I've been asked to omit them and just cite the repository instead (Eighteenth Century Collections Online, to be precise.)
I need to retain the URL in Zotero so that I can reliably access the thing again, and I'm very reluctant to spend days amending hundreds of records manually by moving it to the notes field.
These sources are digitised books - if I want all the relevant publishing information to come through, I can't tell Zotero they're an article or a web page. I've trawled these forums and had a play with the visual editor following the instructions at the bottom of this thread: https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/comment/328020#Comment_328020 . Unfortunately, while this procedure might work for articles, it doesn't seem to work for books. In the visual editor, where the example citation is changed to a book, there is no URL field for me to delete.
My very inexpert impression from the visual editor, which may be totally wrong, is that the base style doesn't think that URLs exist for books at all. It's as though when it sees the data in a field it doesn't believe in, it includes it regardless - because it can't be suppressed, because it doesn't exist. But I don't know how to enlighten it in this regard.
I can follow basic instructions with something like the visual editor, but even having looked at the instructions, I would have no idea where to begin with the full plain text editing business. The "Include URLs" tickbox in the Preferences menu has no effect, presumably because it likewise assumes that URLs only apply to articles.
Any pearls of wisdom? Really hoping someone can advise on this, as I've been banging my head against it to no avail...
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As you’ve noticed, the Chicago style is very complex to edit. I would strongly recommend following the guidance in the manual and including the URL.
As I mentioned, I have been explicitly requested to name the database instead of using the URL, which is an option included in the manual.
I can see why they've asked for it, because the URLs are huge and ugly and eat up note space, particularly when combined with paragraph-long early modern titles. But this is a last resort rather than personal preference.