Feature Request: Stand Alone Zotero
I love Zotero and have used it since it was released years ago. My main annoyance with Zotero is that it is a extension to firefox and not a standalone app.
In the long term, I'd love to see a stand alone version of Zotero, for mac specifically.
In the long term, I'd love to see a stand alone version of Zotero, for mac specifically.
There are alternatives to Zotero for those for whom this is such a big issue. (specifically for Mac both Papers and Mendeley seem quite good, though not as good as Zotero+FF).
By the way, while we don't have any plans to produce a standalone app, Mozilla does have a standalone app framework called XULRunner, which would support much of the existing Zotero code. But the main difference is that you'd get a Zotero icon instead of a Firefox icon.
A related feature request that has been made is the ability to automatically run the translator process on a dragged URL, though this has the problem of not knowing whether you're going to get a translator save or a regular Create New Item from Page save, and there could be proxy issues.
The only thing missing is the ability to launch a firefox window with the zotero pane already full-screened like this as a windows shortcut or whatever. Since I've been looking for excuses to advertise a plugin I recently wrote, I'll mention that I added exactly this functionality to my ZoteRename plugin (http://umn.edu/home/kjamison/zoterename/).
In short, any time you open a new window with the url "about:blank?zotero", the plugin opens the zotero pane and makes it full-screen. The page has instructions for making a shortcut that runs <firefox dir>\firefox.exe -new-window about:blank?zotero , and a handy Zotero icon to complete the package.
I've got a couple other interesting features people might be interested in too, so feel free to check it out (sorry for the spamming... but I don't think it was a stretch given the original request)
-Keith
This feature will be in 2.0b7.
Chrisalbon, if you really want a standalone version to overcome the psychological "I want to download a bibliography database, not a webbrowser" obstacle, you could just create a customized version of of firefox that is rebranded, comes with Zotero pre-installed and opens zotero fullscreen upon startup...
http://prism.mozilla.com/started/
That said, there are ways to decouple Zotero from the Firefox browser that we are exploring.
If one wants to browse the Internet, he or she will prefer to see the browser window in full view. He or she then wants to search documents, he or she wants to do that in full screen view and therefore will use a virtual desktop and/or a second screen to keep the documents separate from the other windows
At that point, the user managed to keep his workspace clean and tidy. But then he wants to use the Zotero items he just imported to insert citations in a document.
What does he have to do ?
Go back to FF and open the navigator to browse the item collection.
He can open zotero on top of an already existing window or open a new FF window,
Neither of these two solutions is processor since the user will not be able to see the collection in full screen and, even if he could, he still would have to open a new window and use Firefox if he does not browse the web.
He then wants to insert citation using the Zotero word processor plug-in, he therefore will have to switch back to Firefox to select and edit the citation and then back again to the word processor. That's a bit disturbing.
It would be much more comfortable to use Firefox to search e.g., add items with Zotero as it now is possible, then close FF and use Zotero in full views alongside the word processor and its documents.
Zotero interface is very nice, it is similar to that of iTunes. Do you think that iTunes would be that nice if one had to browse the album collection in the same way as he he now browses the zotero collection with FF ?
Moreover, both Mac OS X and Windows respectively use Safari and Internet Explorer to run. Is this a sufficient reason to run the O.S. through a web browser window ? Would this be a convenient way to interact with the O.S. ? If you answer these questions you will probably find out why having a stand alone Zotero app would be one small step for Zotero development team, a giant leap for Zotero user community.
Also I don't really follow from your logic what's different from what you describe to a fullscreen version of Zotero (maybe with some minor improvements) open in a separate FF window. The Open Office/Word plugin would have to remain separate anyway, if only because you would want to allow the same software to run with separate word processors.
Also, the tight browser integration is one of Zotero's key comparative advantages. For people who really insist on a standalone app, Mendeley is very similar to Zotero and offerst just that.
Such an improvement might obviate the perceived need for "stand-alone" Zotero.
Try it out... unfortunately it hasn't obviated those perceived needs ;-).
I think for me the most important remaining thing to make fullscreen even more useful would be to make moving between collections apply across windows, or allow Fullscreen to be limited to a tab:
Say you have 2 FF windows open, one with fullscreen Zotero, one for regular browsing.
Now what I would like to see it that if I used to have one collection "kitchen recipes" selected in my fullscreen, but then decide to do some actual research and select collect "super important stuff" in the fullscreen mode instead, that should change in the other open window, too, so that any imported article lands in the "super important stuff" collection.
Thanks for the shift-click hint-- that's something I hadn't tried, although I'm not sure that it should be default behavior for full-screen mode. On my little netbook, I sometimes am in full-screen mode solely because anything smaller is clumsy, and I know full well that links are opening in the browser windows obscured by the Zotero pane.
I will now go back to not seeing any reason to ask for a stand-alone Zotero.
I'm not sure what you'd want that for, but it's actually more than you'd be able to do with a stand-alone application, where separate open windows would mean separate open programs which would likely mess with the DB.
Edit : please read I do not think that a Zotero… instead of I do think…
Nothing major, and nothing that really gets in the way of functionality (just requires a couple extra clicks to get Zotero into half-screen mode), but odd and I thought worth mentioning. Unless I'm missing something and it's really supposed to be like that!
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\zotero]
@="URL:zotero"
"URL Protocol"=""
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\zotero\shell]
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\zotero\shell\open]
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\zotero\shell\open\command]
@="\"C:\\Program Files\\Mozilla Firefox\\firefox.exe\" \"%1\""
1 - Full page in FF is great, sucks ram & cpu - a standalone could be lighter.
2 - In an ideal world, I would install my standalone and link it to Word/Oo without plugins.
3 - Given the recent problems with Java (I still haven't solved mine) I wish a standalone zotero could work without it.
4 - I really dislike the swapping back and forth the document page and the browser. I wish one day Zotero will sit/pop up somewhere in the tray - gnotero is a good start but of course it only allows to check references (partially). I think it could be possible to extend this concept to a fully editable appelet which integrates with the word processor.
Thanks
Diego