Footnote vs Bibliography
I'm new, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to get zotero to give me a footnote rather then a bibliographic reference. I use Turabian and (I think like many styles), the bibliography is different then the footnote.
Can anyone explain this to me? The drag and drop doesn't do it. The plug-in doesn't work. ??
Can anyone explain this to me? The drag and drop doesn't do it. The plug-in doesn't work. ??
2. If you're using the Word plugin the insert citation button should give you the citation format for the style. If you don't like what the Turabian footnotes look like try using the Chicago note with bibliography style. It may well be what you're looking for.
Try using Chicago Manual of Style (Full Note with Bibliography)
if that has grayed out FN and EN option let us know.
see here for general instructions:
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/5104/modifying-word-plugin-using-journal-abbreviation-instead-of-publication-name/#Item_2
What you want to do is to change the line, one of the first in the csl that reads something like
<style xmlns="http://purl.org/net/xbiblio/csl" class="in-text" xml:lang="en">
to
<style xmlns="http://purl.org/net/xbiblio/csl" class="note" xml:lang="en">
i.e. only change the value of 'class'.
Please make sure to read and follow the instructions in the first link, though.
If you want help, try to be both clearer and more specific. Otherwise enjoy toying with csl, which can actually be quite entertaining.
If what you want is a citation style that does both in-text _and_ footnotes, depending on the nature of the citation, that's not something csl does (nor is it something I have every seen anywhere).
(A) the reference data
(B) the number or letter inserted into the text
(C) the formatted text that is supposed to go into a footnote or biblography
After I changed "in-line" to "note" when I inserted a reference into a document it created a regular footnote and placed (B) within that footnote. What I wish to happen when a reference is inserted is for (B) to be placed in the text and (C) to be placed in a corresponding footnote. Sorry about this the language regarding this stuff is super confusing. If you have an easy fix I'll take, otherwise thanks.
Aaron
I overlooked that, sorry.
Look towards the end of your citation style
there is a section that starts with
<citation>
and one that starts with
<bibliography>
basically, you want to take the
information in the that latter section and put it into the former -
you can't obviously cut and paste the entire section - much of the 'option' stuff is unique to bibliography or citation (e.g. entry spacing doesn't make much sense for citation), so basically start where it says:
<text macro="author" suffix=" "/>
and then do c&p - you may still have to play around a little, but that should basically do it.
I'd suggest using the Chicago Style as a reference for comparison, it's the best footnote style in Zotero (and the most common one generally speaking)
Why would you want that?
Footnotes are always numbered consecutively, for good reason (that's also a word/Ooo setting that I wouldn't know how to change).
If this is just for keeping track of cited literature while writing, while not write in one style (e.g. Chicago) and then switch to another style when you are done?
If this is actually required by anyone reasonably important (i.e. journal or department), please post a link to the requirement.
In "proposals" I've written I've imitated the JACS format to make it look "professional" and to do so I cited everything by hand. Every time I wanted to refer to an earlier footnote I would add a superscript number. I don't think there is a major market for this format, but thanks for all your help in exploring the system.
That's very strange indeed. As I say below - I think if it's done in a major Journal Zotero should be able to do it - but I'm not so clear about a possible way of implementing this.
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(old post read): hmm - now I'm confused again. I just looked at JACS and it doesn't have footnotes
just a regular numbered bibliography - titled "References" at the end,
e.g. here:
DOI: 10.1021/ja9009088
that's exactly what the csl style of the same name does.
I would be inclined to say if a major journal does something than Zotero should do its best to support it - but here I just don't see the journal citing in the way you say it does.
DOI:10.1021/ja806578y
In this article citation 11 is the first one to behave as I described. Personally I know that "Inorganic Chemistry" and "Organometallics" follow this format.
DOI:10.1021/ic061740x
DOI:10.1021/om070143v
I hope that helps.
1) I see the American Chemical Society (ACS) style still does not support footnotes, as required by, e.g., Organic Letters (see http://pubs.acs.org/toc/orlef7/13/1 for examples).
2) If you look at articles published by ACS, you will notice that some footnotes contain multiple references (denoted a, b, c... etc.). If there is a way to do this with Zotero, I haven't found it...