IEEE Website Issues

sbanders
I have a number of technical writing students using Zotero to keep track of their resources for my class, and I require IEEE citations. Unfortunately, the bibliography function for IEEE websites doesn't include all the necessary information (only the title is included, not the web address or date accessed).

Is there something I can do to help these students get the output they need for their bibliography?

Thanks in advance!
  • RintzeRintze
    Is what you want described anywhere in the IEEE style guide?:
    http://www.ieee.org/portal/cms_docs_iportals/iportals/publications/authors/transjnl/stylemanual.pdf
  • sbanders
    Yep, page 11 about halfway down. Listings need the web address at least. Not included here, most academic set-ups also include the date accessed or retrieved.
  • Tjowens
    As far as I'm concerned the IEEE style guide is a quite a mess, (when is the last time you needed to cite something via telnet) but there are provisions for including URLs, and in general it would seem to be good practice to er on the side of more information, particularly when that information is the closest thing in the item data to a unique identifier. See

    WWW Basic Format:

    [1] J. K. Author. (year, month day). Title. Journal [Type of medium]. volume(issue), paging if given. Available: http://www.(URL)

    Example:
    [1] M. Semilof. (1996, July 15). Driving commerce to the Web—Corporate Intranets and the Internet: Lines blur. Communications Week [Online]. 6(19). Available: http://www.techweb.com/se/directlink.cgi?CWK19960715S0005
    Similarly conference papers, reports, articles, and books all have a [Online] format. It would seem to make sense to have these follow the rules for the preference that drops URLs when page numbers are present? Thoughts?
  • RintzeRintze
    Not included here, most academic set-ups also include the date accessed or retrieved.
    Isn't the "1996, July 15" in the example of Tjowens the accessed-date?
    Similarly conference papers, reports, articles, and books all have a [Online] format. It would seem to make sense to have these follow the rules for the preference that drops URLs when page numbers are present? Thoughts?
    The style could be altered to add URLs, but the preference only works for journal, magazine and newspaper articles, so there might be some problems with other item types like books.
  • Tjowens
    edited April 11, 2009
    Sounds good, it makes sense to just leave books out of it. I would hazard to guess that you can count the number of times people have cited books only published online on both of our hands.
  • RintzeRintze
    edited April 11, 2009
    It would seem to make sense to have these follow the rules for the preference that drops URLs when page numbers are present? Thoughts?
    Thinking of this a bit more, it's not so easily to implement: quite a few online-only sources do have page numbers (e.g. http://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=cite-builder&doi=10.1371/journal.pbio.1000063).
  • Tjowens
    Is this really a page number? e63 EP -
    Is this more of an issue with our PLOS translator?
  • RintzeRintze
    edited April 14, 2009
    Well, since page numbers no longer make a lot of sense here, different online-only publishers have come up with different terms. PLoS uses the term <elocation-id> in their XML files (e.g. in http://biology.plosjournals.org/archive/1545-7885/7/4/pmc/pbio.1000063.xml). BMC Genomics (http://www.biomedcentral.com/bmcgenomics/) uses article numbers on their site.

    I guess all of these should just map to the pages field, as they're usually formatted the same in citations.

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