Update Aleph translator

blattier · August 29, 2017

Hi, I need to update/fix Zotero translator for our OPAC Aleph after its integration within the homepage of our website [http://www.biu-montpellier.fr].

We are using Aleph 20.2.10 with a french interface.

Previously, our Opac Aleph [http://opac.biu-montpellier.fr/F/?func=find-b-0] displayed in a separated window and was perfectly recognized by Zotero (capture of all record's types, multiple capture) with Zotero translator "Save to Zotero (library catalog Aleph)"

Since the Opac Aleph is displayed within our homepage, Zotero translator changed for "Save to Zotero (Webpage With Snapshot)" and doesn't recognize records anymore.

Thanks for your help

Gracile · August 30, 2017

[Duplicate of https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/66568/mise-a-jour-translator-pour-catalogue-aleph-sur-site-de-la-biu-de-montpellier#latest ]

@blattier : peut-être devriez-vous poser votre question sur la liste de diffusion zotero-dev pour obtenir une réponse. À moins que @adamsmith ou @zuphilip aient une idée ?

blattier · September 5, 2017

Merci @Gracile. Je viens de publier ma question sur liste de diffusion zotero-dev mais je crains de ne pas comprendre la réponse, s'il y en a une !

J'espère encore une réponse de @adamsmith ou @zuphilip car ce problème impacte une grande partie des utilisateurs Zotero du sud de la France.

blattier · September 6, 2017

My request was denied from zotero-dev's group because it's not a technical one.

I don't know how to find some help.

bwiernik · September 6, 2017

What do you mean your request was denied? Can you post a link to your post on zotero-dev?

blattier · September 6, 2017

I posted the request above in the same terms and it was denied by a group moderator, so I can't post any link to my post on zotero-dev.
Here's the copy of the message I got :

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Please post non-technical feature requests, bug reports, and support questions to the Zotero Forums.

adamsmith · September 6, 2017

Here is the right place for the question, if just doesn't have an easy answer

zuphilip · September 9, 2017

The Aleph translator heavily depends on the URLs structure for detection (book vs. multiples) but also for the data extraction (forming a link to the MARC data). Because you are embedding the Aleph data in your website, this URL structure is not there to help recognition. I don't think we can simply extend the Aleph translator to work with your new catalog.

However, it could be possible to write an individual translator for your catalog. But also then the URL cannot help much, as I see most of the the same URL http://www.biu-montpellier.fr/florabium/jsp/biumImpossid/anonyme2/index2.jsp (independent of whether I am on a single or multiple page). I guess that there are some elements in the HTML you could test for presence or maybe the iframe will give you some information. For a new translator you can start with these blocks https://github.com/zuphilip/translators/wiki/Common-code-blocks-for-translators and adjust them. Then use some way to receive the MARC data for calling the corresponding translator within https://github.com/zuphilip/translators/wiki/Calling-Marc-translator . Together this looks not easy, but, @blattier, you know your website best. If you start with some translator we can also help you further.

blattier · September 13, 2017

Thank you @zuphilip
I took a look to the HTML of our website's page displaying a record within the catalog and didn't find any MARC data, so I begin to understand a part of the difficulty (by comparison with the same record in the previous catalog'page).
I'm not a developper so I transmitted your recommendations to my Institution. I'll let you know about something started.

Gracile · September 13, 2017

@blattier : cette page peut aussi être utile pour la création de convertisseurs/translators :
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Citoid/Creating_Zotero_translators

blattier · September 14, 2017

Merci @Gracile. J'ai transmis ce lien au service informatique de la BIU de Montpellier.

Boettcher · July 29, 2019

Are there any updates? I really need to get GPO records in my Group. Thanks

blattier · September 10, 2019

We didn't need to fix this issue, finaly. So I can't help you further, sorry.

We've migrated our system to Alma ILS - Primo NUI Discovery tool in 2018 and had to deal with some Primo translator's troubles... which were fixed by our institution developper (manipulating Normalization Rules in Primo).
Ex Libris wasn't very helpful on this subject.
Good luck to you