Installed 5.0 - can't access a 2nd Firefox profile and q. about synching
[Mac Sierra] After updating to 5.0, I have these issues. I was using the affordances of the the Zotero ecosystem to keep my research projects separate. I had one set of materials in Standalone, and two in separate Firefox profiles. So, 3 separate data directories.
Since you removed the option to keeping files separately in Firefox, I don't have a way to keep my files, workflows and storage separate. It's very important to me that my research be stored locally, never to the cloud, except in the instance that I have to share something with my boss.
It used to be set up like this:
Remote contract work shared (always synched) Standalone 2000 items
Main (never synched) Firefox profile - 7000 items
Writing a book (never synched) Firefox profile - 1200 items
What happened when I updated to 5.0:
Standalone 5.0 connected to the data directory for my "Main" Firefox profile. But not the others.
Problems:
1) I can't access my second Firefox profile "Writing a book"
2) I want to keep these research files separate but still have the ability to synch one subset. (or by using a separate account).
Since you removed the option to keeping files separately in Firefox, I don't have a way to keep my files, workflows and storage separate. It's very important to me that my research be stored locally, never to the cloud, except in the instance that I have to share something with my boss.
It used to be set up like this:
Remote contract work shared (always synched) Standalone 2000 items
Main (never synched) Firefox profile - 7000 items
Writing a book (never synched) Firefox profile - 1200 items
What happened when I updated to 5.0:
Standalone 5.0 connected to the data directory for my "Main" Firefox profile. But not the others.
Problems:
1) I can't access my second Firefox profile "Writing a book"
2) I want to keep these research files separate but still have the ability to synch one subset. (or by using a separate account).
(There's not currently a way to have the connector talk to different running instances of Zotero — it'll save to the one you opened first — but we might add that in a future version.) Just to be clear, we didn't have a choice here — Firefox extensions can no longer access the filesystem.
You wrote "Each profile can point to a different data directory." I know how to do this in Firefox; but not in the new Zotero Standalone. And I don't see documentation for how to connect to multiple profiles.
Would you please explain how to do this?
But, I can't see what they look like. Should I pick "Previous" or "Current"? (Maybe they are both the same anyway?)
But you should move all the 'zotero' directories out of your Firefox profiles and put them somewhere else. Zotero 5.0 defaults to "Zotero" in your home directory for its data directory, so you could have "Zotero", "Zotero Book", etc.
Once you have those, create your three profiles and point each at the right data directory from the Advanced → Files and Folders pane of the Zotero preferences.
INO, move the entire folder or just the contents of that folder?
And what should the name of the folder be? Do I have to retain the "randomstring.default" naming convention?
Is the folder (on a Mac) "/Users//Zotero" is what you are calling the profile?
Do I understand you to recommend making a series of folders that act as profiles like this :
/Users//Zotero
/Users//Zotero-book
/Users//Zotero-remote
Right now, I have one folder containing my PDFs and other data named in this way:
/Users/username/Zotero
When I started the new 5.0 Zotero Standalone, that folder is the one it automatically found.
My problem is: I have 2 other profiles that can Zotero data.
My question is: what *exactly* do I move from the 3 folders now named?
"1randomstring.default"
"2randomstring.default"
"3randomstring.default"
Do I open them and copy/move zotero.sqlite and the "storage" folder?
Or do I move the entire folder?
And, where in the file system should they go?
Thank you.
What Dan is telling you to do is to take the _entire content_ of that directory (which includes zotero.sqlite and the storage folder and its content), place it in a new folder, say, /Users/Zotero-book
Then create a new Zotero profile and in the preferences select /Users/Zotero-book as the custom data directory location.
Repeat for the "remote" profile. It sounds like the main profile is already moved.
But (on my Mac) there is no folder "1randomstring.default/zotero"
Just "1randomstring.default" and its contents
Its seems weird to me that the only place for my new profiles is one level away from root. That's why I keep asking about "where." I was wondering if the structure should look like:
/Users/username/Zotero/Zotero-book
But, you're saying it should look like:
/Users/username/Zotero
/Users/username/Zotero-book
/Users/username/Zotero-remote
Thanks.
Profiles contain settings (prefs.js and such), exist for both Firefox and Zotero, and stay within ~/Library/Application Support.
Data directories contain your library data, with zotero.sqlite and 'storage', and can exist anywhere. In 4.0 the default location was within the Firefox or Zotero profile directory as 'zotero'. In Zotero 5.0 the default is /Users/username/Zotero.
Also, you wrote: <<Using multiple profiles and data directories is a fairly advanced and rare practice, so I've assumed you were familiar with the basics of profile directories, data directories, command-line flags.>>
It's true that I am a little more advanced than the average academic. But everyone I know who works on the CL frequently prefers to see a line of bash script written out when possible.
But, probably the main reason is my feeling that Zotero databases seem somewhat fragile. Usually when you are working on the CL, you aren't going to "break" anything unless you get sloppy with "rm." But, the impression I have from reading this forum over several years is that it's pretty easy to do something unorthodox and break your Zotero data directory or certainly to lose access to it for a while. And, that because users are working in such different hardware and software environments, it can be frustrating for both the users and you folks doing support to fix.
Hence my cautious, tedious and step-by-step approach.
Thanks for talking me thru each step of this.
And, while I have technical skills in a variety of areas, I know very little about browsers, including profile directories. My impression is that it's a fairly arcane area.
It took me several years to figure out that I could work with multiple directories. It was only necessity that drove me to it. ;-) In the meanwhile, I have collected "guides" to Zotero written by faculty and librarians all over the country. Do you know there is a 60-page guide to doing legal referencing with Zotero? ;-)
I would like to see Zotero have more voluminous documentation. I wish I was in a position to write it for you; because I think it would be helpful to many people.
And, one final word, my first look at Zotero 5.0 makes me think that it is much improved for my purposes. My biggest data directory is more than 20 GBs. So, it had gotten impossible to use Zotero and I had started using other types of storage.
But, the new Zotero is really speedy!! Congratulations to all of you for getting it done.
And, thanks again.