Turabian date placement

digimars
I'm using Microsoft Word and its built-in Turabian citation. It puts the year the book was published at the end of the bibliography, as outlined here:

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/books/turabian/turabian_citationguide.html

Cantor, Norman F. The Civilization of the Middle Ages. New York, New York: HarperCollins, 1993.


However, in Zotero, it puts the year of the book publishing after the author's name:

Cantor, Norman F. 1993. The Civilzation of the Middle Ages. New York, New York: HarperCollins.

Is there a way that the Turabian author-date style could get updated to reflect this so that the publishing year goes at the end?


Thanks!
  • adamsmith
    You're looking at the wrong Turabian example. For the author-date version of the style, Zotero's date placement is correct. Click on the "Author-Date" tab on the page and you see
    Gladwell, Malcolm. 2000. The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference. Boston: Little, Brown.

    If you want Turabian's Note-Bibliography format, use the corresponding citation style in Zotero:
    https://www.zotero.org/styles?q=Turabian%208th%20edition%20(full%20note)
  • digimars
    Ah, I see where I got confused.

    My school wants the full-note style bibliography, but the in-text citation that I get from Author-Date, not footnotes or endnotes. Is there a way to achieve that with Zotero? I can do that with the built in Turabian citation system of Microsoft Word.
  • adamsmith
    no, there is not sorry.

    But are you sure? That makes no sense at all as a citation style. In order to identify a citation you have to first look at the author at the beginning and then look for the date at the end. Essentially every author-date citation style has the date immediately following the authors.
  • digimars
    You are correct. I believe the problem lies with my lack of clarity.

    Within the paper, we are to have in-text citations in this manner: (name date) e.g. (Cantor 1993)

    There are no footnotes (obviously since we have the in-text citation). Then, for our bibliography we have this format:

    Cantor, Norman F. The Civilization of the Middle Ages. New York, New York: HarperCollins, 1993.

    The issue that I see with Zotero is if I use the Author-date in-text citation, then my bibliography has the date after the author's name in the bibliography, which does not match the format that I have here, but Microsoft Word formats it this way, and this is what my school wants for its papers.
  • adamsmith
    Yeah, sorry. As you can see, that's not actually a citation style that exists -- it doesn't follow Turabian -- and we don't have it. All I'm saying is that it's also, frankly, a dumb citation style that no one should use or be asked to use.
  • digimars
    Thanks for the intel. I asked my professor if I could actually use the standard format, which will allow me to continue using Zotero.

    If not, I'll have to use the hodge-podge one that Word has built-in (which is probably the reason my school chose that method).
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