Problem with De Buck citation style?

EBoersma · May 24, 2016

Recently I am getting the field 'extra' in my references. I am running Zotero 4.0.20.10 under Firefox 46.0.1 & word 2010. I have updated De Buck style & word add-in.

The reference looks like this:
Historisch dag-verhaal van het belegeren en inneemen der stad Bergen op den Zoom [...] door de kroon Vrankryk (Kn 17843) (Haerlem: Enschede RecordID 14161Pamphlet Nr. 17843).

The'extra' field looks like this in Zotero:
RecordID 14161
Pamphlet Nr. 17843

The 'extra' field should not be in the reference. Does anyone know what is wrong?

adamsmith · May 24, 2016

added by the style author here:
https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/pull/2046
see the rational provided. Not sure about this, but I think it's probably better to take this out.

Rintze · May 24, 2016

Asked the style author about this: https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/pull/2046#issuecomment-221266910

(agree that the style probably shouldn't do this)

Rintze · May 24, 2016

(and in the meantime, you could install the previous version: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/citation-style-language/styles-distribution/f2769425d8d1b2334430057528e9175ab05bfb26/de-buck.csl ; just make sure to change the style ID and "self" link to prevent Zotero from updating the style to the current repository version)

EBoersma · May 24, 2016

I am not sure how to do this, could you explain please?

Rintze · May 24, 2016

You can download this version: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/rmzelle/56d1d6a2c0eb0c0c3f77be110c345012/raw/1d2e98f69ff28ecd42856e0d0cb8f9770247da37/de-buck-old.csl

(should show up in Zotero as "De Buck (Dutch) - old" after installation)

EBoersma · May 24, 2016

I see only one style 'De Buck (Dutch)' in the stylerepository (2017-05-18), no old style.

Rintze · May 24, 2016

I haven't added the older version to the repository, so no, you won't find it there.

But if you follow the link https://gist.githubusercontent.com/rmzelle/56d1d6a2c0eb0c0c3f77be110c345012/raw/1d2e98f69ff28ecd42856e0d0cb8f9770247da37/de-buck-old.csl, right-click on the page and use "Save as...", you can save this older version to your desktop, and then install it (https://www.zotero.org/support/styles#alternative_installation_methods).

EBoersma · May 24, 2016

Thx, this has solved the problem.

My preferences are now set to the De Buck old style.

Would it be possible to get an notification if the author of the style does an update to restore this error, so we can have the benefits of the improvements of the new style? I would be much obliged.

thx for all the help!

rjstapel · May 25, 2016

Hi there,
In hindsight, using the Extra field was probably not a good idea, so this needs to be changed. I needed the field to be able to give date ranges (which I use a lot, especially in referring to older books such as incunabula).

Best, Rombert

EBoersma · May 25, 2016

Beste Rombert,
Ik snap je probleem. Ik zet dataranges meestal maar in de titel, maar dat is niet ideaal.

Het extra-veld zal door iedereen anders gebruikt worden denk ik. Ik gebruik het om bibliofiele gegevens (bijv gegevens uit Tempo of bibliotheek-catalogie) in op te slaan.

Ik hoop dat je dit snel kan aanpassen want jouw update, vooral de aanpassing van 'non dropping particles' als 'van' en 'de' in Nederlandse (en Duitse) namen is buitengewoon fijn, naast alle andere verbeteringen! Omdat ik nu als eigen stijl de vorige versie gebruik, zal die niet updaten als jij een aanpassing doet. Zou het mogelijk zijn om me dat te laten weten, bijvoorbeeld via deze discussie?

M. vr. groet & dank, erica boersma

braindumps · May 25, 2016

thanks for giving a great and an important information

Rintze · May 25, 2016

Ik heb net de De Buck stijl geupdate zodat deze niet meer de inhoud van Zotero's Extra-veld gebruikt: https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/commit/69c9a3eee87fea04d29b0906726bc21d26a1387d

Betere ondersteuning in Zotero voor periodes staat op de agenda, maar het kan nog een tijdje duren.

(@braindumps is een spam account)

EBoersma · June 12, 2016

Bedankt!