Name Suffixes and Titles with Punctuation
Hi all... I have three miscellaneous questions regards CSL coding. I have searched the forum and all of these were addressed at some stage, but most threads are 1 - 5 years old and I wanted to see if there was any update.
1) It seems like CSL cannot handle name suffixes (e.g., Jr., Sr., III, etc...) very well and these will ultimately have to be manipulated manually? What I am interested in is trying to code such that they appear as follows:
Dodd, C.K., Jr. 1991. The status of the Red Hills Salamander Phaeognathus hubrichti, Alabama, USA, 1976–1988. Biological Conservation 55:57–75.
2) Is there still no way to drop style inserted punctuation (usually a period) following reference titles that have punctuation already (usually ? or !)?
3) For ordinal edition numbers, is there still no way to make the ordinal label superscript (e.g., 3<sup>rd</rd>) as part of the style?
Thanks!
Matt
1) It seems like CSL cannot handle name suffixes (e.g., Jr., Sr., III, etc...) very well and these will ultimately have to be manipulated manually? What I am interested in is trying to code such that they appear as follows:
Dodd, C.K., Jr. 1991. The status of the Red Hills Salamander Phaeognathus hubrichti, Alabama, USA, 1976–1988. Biological Conservation 55:57–75.
2) Is there still no way to drop style inserted punctuation (usually a period) following reference titles that have punctuation already (usually ? or !)?
3) For ordinal edition numbers, is there still no way to make the ordinal label superscript (e.g., 3<sup>rd</rd>) as part of the style?
Thanks!
Matt
(2) Style punctuation should generally be dropped when it is adjacent to punctuation in the title. If you finding it's not, then it is probably a big, so please report that specific issue.
I'm not sure about (3). @adamsmith?
(1) Personally I use Mendeley, which is where I have been testing this style I am developing, and it seems Mendeley does not have a means for dealing with this yet (i.e., no separate name fields for first, last, etc...). Bummer!
(2) I am finding that style punctuation is not dropping in my style (again, tested on Mendeley, maybe not an issue in Zotero). My style can be found here: https://gist.github.com/tersiphone/444edc5a88d3297c606e
@adamsmith?
(3) Lets see what @adamsmith says
Thanks again!
2)Could I get a specific example? Again, that shouldn't differ between Zotero and Mendeley and dropping double punctuation is tricky and depends on the details of both the style and the item.
3) No. Users can run Word formatting over the bibliography at the end and it'll do that automatically.
<term name="ordinal">ᵗʰ</term>
<term name="ordinal-01">ˢᵗ</term>
<term name="ordinal-02">ⁿᵈ</term>
<term name="ordinal-03">ʳᵈ</term>
<term name="ordinal-11">ᵗʰ</term>
<term name="ordinal-12">ᵗʰ</term>
<term name="ordinal-13">ᵗʰ</term>
(see the Latin superscript minuscule characters at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_subscripts_and_superscripts)
Not sure if that renders well, though. There is currently no way to specify superscripting for regular text in these terms.
(1) Great - love to see what you come up with! There is lots of complaining about this issue on the Mendeley forum.
(2) This is what I get currently:
Dodd, C.K.J., and R.A. Seigel. 1991. Relocation, repatriation, and translocation of amphibians and reptiles: are they conservation strategies that work?. Herpetologica 47:336–349.
I would like my style to suppress that period after the question mark in the title automatically. See style link above.