From APA to Chicago

Shane Graber
Case 1636365860

Well, no surprise, but El Capitan has KILLED the fluidity of Zotero. I cannot change my document style from APA to Chicago (it used to be sooooo smoothe!). It keeps the old in-text citations, turns the bibliography to single-space and 10 pt, and uses Roman Numerals. I realize this is Office and Mac's fault--but they'll NEVER troubleshoot this for me. Can anyone help?
  • Shane Graber
    Actually, I doubt the feedback will help. I don't know how to return to this discussion (I hit "Bookmark this discussion," and nothing happens.
  • adamsmith
    a) you get updates by email, b) you can bookmark this with your browser c) you can lick on bookmarked discussion on the left here. Please confirm that you're still interested -- I have some ideas on fixing this for you, but don't have any interest in wasting time if you're not going to check back.
  • Shane Graber
    Ta da! Figured it out by subscribing to category. Sorry. Not a digital native. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Zotero is (or, before El Capitan, was) a lovely gift from the universe. El Capitan tries to ruin EVERYTHING!
  • dstillman
    (You don't need to subscribe to anything — the forum automatically subscribes you to your own threads. And it's very unlikely that any of your issues have anything to do with El Capitan.)
  • adamsmith
    Could you start by saying which Chicago style you're switching to?
    I'm a bit confused by the "it keeps the old in text citations" combined with "it uses roman numerals" -- how exactly does this look? Is that the case for all citations or just one?

    For the Roman numerals specifically, that's a Word setting that should be pretty easy to toggle. The exact instructions vary, but this would be for Mac Word 2011: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5225986?tstart=0

    Would also help to test this with a fresh document and just a couple of citations -- same problem there, or does that work?
  • Shane Graber
    It works fine with a new document. And I've tried all Chicago formats. They add the superscript but keep the parenthetical citation. Likewise, it doesn't number the corresponding notes at the end of the document. They remain in alphabetical order.

    And it most certainly is El Capitan. I (and everyone I know) has had numerous problems with several pieces of software (not the least of which has been Preview) since the "upgrade."
  • adamsmith
    works fine in a new document means you can switch back and forth there?

    Could you post some examples here or link to a screenshot? I still don't have a good sense of what you're looking at.

    (And while I don't want to take away from your righteous anger at the new Mac OS, Dan is right here -- the chance this is connected to the OS is almost zero. Switching styles works in a Word document just does not rely on OS features in a way that it'd be affected by an update)
  • Shane Graber
    I have a 25-page paper in APA. I try and switch it to Chicago Notes using Zotero Set Doc Prefs. But instead of linking the endnotes to the citations, the reference list is in alphabetical order. (And it changes from double-spaced to single, for what it's worth).
  • adamsmith
    that part doesn't sound wrong: Chicago style does have bibliographies; they are alphabetical, and they are single spaced.
    Are you saying you're not seeing any footnotes or endnotes?
  • Shane Graber
    It was just a corrupted file. I tried a different document (which I should have done to begin with), and it worked as wonderfully as ever! Thanks anyways, and sorry for the trouble.
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