Saved Search Subgroups
Is it possible to make saved searched hierarchically?
i.e. I want to make a saved search "Books". In this saved search i want categories "missing, location home, location office" etc. like i can make subcollections.
I could make the same structure as collections and subcollections, but then I have to manually move new books into the collections.
In Jabref, the equivalent to saved searches would be dynamic collections.
Also, it would be nice to manually order collections or saved searches. So far, Zotero seems to automatically sort collections and saved searches alphabetically.
Thanks
i.e. I want to make a saved search "Books". In this saved search i want categories "missing, location home, location office" etc. like i can make subcollections.
I could make the same structure as collections and subcollections, but then I have to manually move new books into the collections.
In Jabref, the equivalent to saved searches would be dynamic collections.
Also, it would be nice to manually order collections or saved searches. So far, Zotero seems to automatically sort collections and saved searches alphabetically.
Thanks
Would you be able to drag a search in or out of another search? It seems like that gets a little weird, because the parent search condition is implicit when it's a child search.
Suppose i search for 'mammal' and save the search.
I want to make another search for 'dog' and save it as a child of 'mammal', same with 'cat'.
I do not need any dependencies between the searches. Just being able to view the searches as a tree structure.
right now in Zotero I can make searches and they are listed:
mammal
dog
cat
I want it as a tree:
mammal
-dog
-cat
The goal is to have a more complicted tree like:
vertebrate
-fish
-goldfish
-eel
-mammal
-cat
-dog
This should be easy to implement, just allow:
-nested saved searches
-no alphabetic sorting, manually move around searches (drag/drop) also between existing searches/collections)
there are no dependencies necessary between saved searches
This would solve also other comments in the forum related to hierachical tags or keywords, wich are difficult to implement.
A further option would be to have a searched save to include also all other child searches. If I click on 'mammal', it shows this search, but also all child searches: 'dog' and 'cat'
The magic is that if I add papers, they appear automatically in the search w/o having to assign keywords. If 'dog' is not in the title, I can add it as a note and search for title and notes in the search. That way I can adjust papers that do not show the search keyword in the title. I did this extensively in JabRef. It works beautifully.
The kick would be to be able to select a search 'mammal' in the animal tree and to be able to select (ctr-click) another search 'cortex' in the boody part tree. It should show all papers with 'mammal' AND with 'cortex'.
But this gets very complicated. For now just being able to have a nested saved search tree structure w/o alphabetic sorting would be nice.
Thanks
This is better:
vertebrate
-fish
--goldfish
--eel
-mammal
--cat
--dog
The implementation with collections and saved searches is quite sophisticated and very powerful.
It is also a good example of features that get too complicated. The possibility to mix collections and saved searches in the same tree is confusing. Here, JabRef does not follow the KISS priciple.
However, two things would make me organizing papers easier:
1) nested saved searches
e.g. related to:
Animals
-fish
-birds
-mammals
Body Parts
-brain
-head
-lung
-intestines
2) no alphabtic sorting, manual sorting for collections and searches
e.g. animals from lower to higher:
Animals
-fish
-amphibians
-reptiles
-birds
-mammals
alphabetic sorting would screw up the systematic order
Thank you for your cosideration
and long-lasting thread:
https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/1027/organizing-saved-searches/
on basically this.
I've always assumed we'd allow nesting of independent saved searches as part of this. I don't really see the downside.
Then lets hope this gets done before I retire ;)