Using op. cit. in a style

sebmord
Hello

i am quite new to zotero, xml and csl...
i'am trying to edit my own style and reach a point where i am trying to deal with "ibid"...
the fact is i need to replace "ibid" by "op.cit." in italic....

i tried something like :
<else-if position="ibid">
<text term="op. cit." font-style="italic" suffix="."/>
</else-if>

but nothing happen !
could somebody help me ?
  • sebmord
    I made a mistake : this discussion is in the wrong place !
  • bdarcus
    First of all, op. cit. is not an ibid condition; it is a "subsequent" condition.

    Second, and this is just me ranting: it's an evil, heinous, thing that is hostile to readers, and has no place in the 21st century. Don't use it unless you really, really have to.
  • sebmord
    I REALLY have to do.... this is not my choice.
  • jkaluza
    edited November 24, 2008
    Well, the first thing I'm noticing is that as far as I know, and I could be wrong in this, the term="..." field can only contain terms defined in the CSL syntax, right? So, one of these:

    168 div {
    169 cs-terms =
    170
    171 ## Miscellaneous Terms
    172 "accessed"
    173 | "anonymous"
    174 | "and"
    175 | "and others"
    176 | "at"
    177 | "et-al"
    178 | "forthcoming"
    179 | "from"
    180 | "in press"
    181 | "ibid"
    182 | "in"
    183 | "no date"
    184 | "references"
    185 | "retrieved"
    186 | "letter"
    187 | "interview"
    188 | "online"
    189 | "cited"
    190 | "edition"
    191 | "internet"
    192 | "presented at"

    (From: http://xbiblio.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/xbiblio/csl/schema/trunk/csl.rnc?view=markup)

    If one of those is your op.cit., then try inserting the appropriate term from the list above, and your locale should use the appropriate term for your language in your final output automatically.

    If nothing else works, you could just sneak in the "op.cit." in a suffix or prefix, maybe?

    Keep in mind, I'm still trying to figure out CSL as well, so this is only meant to give you ideas on what to try, as I could be completely and totally wrong ;-)
  • bdarcus
    Don't use prefix or suffix.

    If you look at line 439 of the schema, you'll see this:

    ## adds the text in the value field. use sparingly.
    ## when dealing with localizable text, <text term="(term)"/> should be
    ## used, even if this means defining a new term.
    attribute value { text })

    So in this case, you use the "value" attribute for non-standardized terms. Or, you can add the term definition itself to the style.

    I suppose I could consider adding op cit, but as you can see, I have a rather extreme negative reaction against that idea ;-)
  • sebmord
    Thanks a lot for all your anwers !

    What I did : I modified the zotero.xpi by going into a file where the translations are. And at the place where I found "ibid" i put "op.cit." instead....
    But i am not too happy with that...

    Bdarcus i didn't understand your answer (sorry !). Would you be so kind to give me the exact writing ?
    Is this something like that :
    attribute opcit {op. cit.}
    and where to put it ?
    and what i am supposed to do to use it ? Is it like when we want to use ibid ?
    that is to say :
    <text term="opcit" font-style="italic" suffix=". "/>

    Thanks a lot !
  • bdarcus
    edited November 25, 2008
    What I did : I modified the zotero.xpi by going into a file where the translations are. And at the place where I found "ibid" i put "op.cit." instead....
    But i am not too happy with that...
    No, no, no; never modify code like this!

    And again: ibid and op cit are totally different.
    Bdarcus i didn't understand your answer (sorry !). Would you be so kind to give me the exact writing ?
    Sorry; am busy these days.

    Look at the documentation on the cs:text element. What that means is that you can do:

    <text value="op. cit." font-style="italic" suffix=". "/>
  • sebmord
    Thanks !
    I forgot to say it was working now. Thanks a lot
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