Upgrade StorageHelp needed adding ibid to style (plus rogue comma!)
Hi,
I have four requirements I am hoping for help with.
1) I chose as a template for my college style a style that doesn't use ibid. Could someone help me to modify the style to use ibid?
2) My interviews are showing an extra comma. Could someone help me to remove it?
Smith, Ronan: ‘Interview with Ronan Smith. Conducted by Damian Smith’, , 6 September 2014.
3) My style guide states the following:
The first time a particular work is referenced, a complete footnote including author, title, publisher and date of publication is required. For subsequent references to the same work, some form of shorthand may be used. For example, if there is only one work by a particular author in an essay, it is sufficient to say, for example, Leaver, 21 (the number refers to the page number and it is not necessary to include ‘p.’ for page). If there is more than one reference to an author in your bibliography, it can be differentiated by using a shortened reference. There should be a full stop at the end of a footnote.
If a reference is exactly the same as the preceding one, the term Ibid. (short for ‘ibidem’, meaning ‘in the same place’) can be used. If a reference is exactly the same as the preceding but with a different page number, then include the relevant page number: for example, Ibid., 76.
• The footnote number will be automatically created by your word program when you select Insert / Reference / Footnote. The footnote number comes after the full stop.
• Note: footnote numbers start at 1 for each new chapter.
3 cont) My supervisor suggests I use Op. cit. as a shorthand, but I wonder how that will work with same author, same year, different text.
Regardless, I would like to use ibid. and maybe try Op. Cit. Could someone help here also?
4) Another rogue comma in reports:
Dáil Éireann - Galway Harbour Bill, 1933. - Financial Resolutions., , 16 May 1934 <http://debates.oireachtas.ie/dail/1934/05/16/00010.asp#N251>; [accessed 15 November 2014].
Many thanks,
Damian
I have four requirements I am hoping for help with.
1) I chose as a template for my college style a style that doesn't use ibid. Could someone help me to modify the style to use ibid?
2) My interviews are showing an extra comma. Could someone help me to remove it?
Smith, Ronan: ‘Interview with Ronan Smith. Conducted by Damian Smith’, , 6 September 2014.
3) My style guide states the following:
The first time a particular work is referenced, a complete footnote including author, title, publisher and date of publication is required. For subsequent references to the same work, some form of shorthand may be used. For example, if there is only one work by a particular author in an essay, it is sufficient to say, for example, Leaver, 21 (the number refers to the page number and it is not necessary to include ‘p.’ for page). If there is more than one reference to an author in your bibliography, it can be differentiated by using a shortened reference. There should be a full stop at the end of a footnote.
If a reference is exactly the same as the preceding one, the term Ibid. (short for ‘ibidem’, meaning ‘in the same place’) can be used. If a reference is exactly the same as the preceding but with a different page number, then include the relevant page number: for example, Ibid., 76.
• The footnote number will be automatically created by your word program when you select Insert / Reference / Footnote. The footnote number comes after the full stop.
• Note: footnote numbers start at 1 for each new chapter.
3 cont) My supervisor suggests I use Op. cit. as a shorthand, but I wonder how that will work with same author, same year, different text.
Regardless, I would like to use ibid. and maybe try Op. Cit. Could someone help here also?
4) Another rogue comma in reports:
Dáil Éireann - Galway Harbour Bill, 1933. - Financial Resolutions., , 16 May 1934 <http://debates.oireachtas.ie/dail/1934/05/16/00010.asp#N251>; [accessed 15 November 2014].
Many thanks,
Damian
I'm not even sure what it was originally, but the modified version is here:
https://gist.github.com/bf6bdecc42be6edbe6ae.git
https://gist.github.com/Damianeire/bf6bdecc42be6edbe6ae
copy lines 1074-1082 from the Chicago style: https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/blob/master/chicago-fullnote-bibliography.csl#L1074
to the corresponding position in your style and then change the <if position="subsequent"> you currently have to <else-if... and don't forget to also change the corresponding closing tag (you can look at the Chicago style for the general idea here, but you can't actually copy that part).
I'd advise you to forget about op cit. It's ugly and it's hard to actually get it right, especially in a longer work.
For the comma - that's always a bit tricky in complicated styles. I'd argue the actual error here is that there is a suffix=", " after the title. I'd never put a space in a suffix, that always creates problems. So I'd take that out, but you will need to add a space in a prefix to various other places.
The shorter fix is to just treat this differently for interviews and build another conditional into the title macro that prints the title without any suffix for interviews.
I wrote a post saying the ibid didn't work, but I ran the scan again, it looks like it work perfectly, though I only had time for a quick glance, many many thanks for that too.
Seperately, I'm thinking the disambiguation may help with my subsequent citations issue, and since the guidelines are vague, that should work well. The only problem was if there were multiple cases of (Hodnett, 1999) for example, which there will be, but hopefully the disambiguation will go on to include article name, or exact date, to distinguish the entries.
And once again, thanks.
Damian