.csl style problems

DamianEvans
Hi,
I'm having a few issues.

My editors names for an encyclopedia entry are being listed as

Lastname, Firstname and Lastname, Firstname
rather than
Firstname Lastname and Firstname Lastname

Also I fixed it so that the year would be bracketed followed by a comma for a journal

article:Author [surname, forename]: ‘Title of the article in single inverted commas’, Journal Name in Italics, volume number, (year), page(s) [just the numbers].
EXAMPLE
Leaver, Robin A.: ‘Bach’s Understanding and Use of the Epistles and Gospels of the Church Year’, BACH, vi/4 (1975), 4–13.

But that messes up my encyclopedia entries which end up with double brackets.
Farren, Grainne: ‘Hugh Buckley’, The Encyclopaedia of Music in Ireland, eds. White, Harry and Boydell, Barra (University College Dublin Press, (2013), )p. 135.

I sort of understand that I need to insert at some point an if clause - that is - if the article type is article journal then put brackets on the date - but I really don't get it to be honest. And haven't for some time now!

Could you help please?

The .csl file is here:

https://gist.github.com/Damianeire/bf6bdecc42be6edbe6ae

Thanks,
Damian
  • zuphilip
    edited November 19, 2014
    0) There is a validation error. This can be fixed by encoding the "<" and ">" inside, i.e.
    <text variable="URL" prefix=" &lt;" suffix="&gt;"/>
    Update: This looks wrong, I want " & l t ; " and "& g t ;" without the spaces.
    1) editors (order of firstname lastname): That is controlled by the name-as-sort-order attribute of name. If you want the order to appear different for authors and editors, you may have to delete the attribute in the citation node.
    2) year in encyclopedia entry: I guess you have to add another case in the macro issue:

    <macro name="issued">
    <choose>
    <if type="graphic report article-newspaper" match="any">
    <date variable="issued">
    <date-part name="day" suffix=" "/>
    <date-part name="month" suffix=" "/>
    <date-part name="year"/>
    </date>
    </if>
    <else-if type="bill book chapter graphic legal_case legislation motion_picture paper-conference report song thesis" match="any">
    <date variable="issued">
    <date-part name="year"/>
    </date>
    </else-if>
    <else>
    <date variable="issued" prefix="(" suffix="), ">
    <date-part name="year"/>
    </date>
    </else>
    </choose>
    </macro>

    (Might be enough to add entry-encyclopedia in the large list of item types, i.e. in the second case.)
  • DamianEvans
    edited November 20, 2014
    Thanks zuphilip,

    That has fixed the encyclopedia issue. I don't know what you mean by delete the attribute in the citation node, I would have thought I would have needed to add another entry for editor alone, however, I switched the name field to a single field in zotero for those entries and that fixed the problem. It is a work around I'm willing to live with!

    You're right however that there is a validation error. I looked at the section you were talking about and it seemed ok:

    <if variable="URL">
    <text variable="URL" prefix=" <" suffix=">"/>
    The above also looks wrong for me - it is written " & l t ;" and "& g t ;" without the spaces
    <group prefix=" [" suffix="]">
    <text term="accessed"/>
    <date variable="accessed">

    Validator.nu just tells me:

    IO Error: Non-XML Content-Type: text/plain.

    Could it be something else?

    Thanks again.
  • zuphilip
    Okay, everything worked out except the validation error? You are using the "<" and ">" in a xml environment and that is not allowed. You have to use entity reference for the "less-than" (lt) and "greater-than" (gt) signs, see XML syntax under Entity References.
  • DamianEvans
    edited November 20, 2014
    I'm using & l t and & g t without spaces, I'm not using "<" and ">" in my code. Unless it's converting my entity references to "<" and ">" when I copy and paste the code.

    When I look at my .csl file that I just saved from visual editor, it has no ""<"" or "">"" in it, only the entity references.


    edit:
    I've updated my gist file with any changes that I've made, it now will load into zotero without any problems but validater.nu still doesn't like it.

    I think one of the problems may have been that I wrote in 'encyclopedia' in the long list, and then went back and did it with the visual editor, which added entry-encyclopedia, so I've since deleted 'encyclopedia'. I'm not if that made a difference to it being accepted by zotero.
  • zuphilip
    Okay, maybe that was just a copy and paste issue. One guess form the error message: try to rename it into "dublin-institute-of-technology-conservatory-of-music.csl". Does this helps? Did you updated your file in the gist? Then I can have another look.
  • DamianEvans
    Same error msg with renamed file. I've updated the file in the gist. Thanks.
  • zuphilip
    Your file validates with the validator.citationstyles.org. How do you validate your file?
  • DamianEvans
    I'm following the instructions from:

    http://citationstyles.org/downloads/primer.html

    and validating using

    http://validator.nu/

    both by pasting in text and uploading file.

    But if it's validating there then that's probably ok!

    Many thanks, I have one more question if you don't mind.

    In my subsequent citings I want to have the date as well as the author.

    Should I add a 'issued' under:
    Layout
    Conditional
    If subsequent

    Section? I can't seem to find a way to get the visual editor to test a subsequent citing, although the zotero test panel does, but then I can't use the visual editor, which is easier for me.
  • adamsmith
    (we'll fix the primer -- the validation engine zuphilip links to is an optimized version of validator.nu)
  • RintzeRintze
    Sorry for the confusion, and yes, http://validator.citationstyles.org should be much easier to use.

    (off-topic: I have an updated version of the primer ready at http://docs.citationstyles.org/en/latest/primer.html, but I'm waiting with redirecting URLs until I've heard from Read the Docs, but they don't tend to their GitHub issues very much. The main issue is that I'm hoping to be able to use Git branches for CSL 1.0 and 1.0.1 (so we can publish multiple versions of the specification), but I haven't figured out how to do this yet. See https://github.com/rtfd/readthedocs.org/issues/989 and https://github.com/rtfd/readthedocs.org/issues/1017

    The new primer doesn't discuss validation, since that seemed a bit redundant now that we have https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/wiki/Validation.)
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