Publisher on Journals
First, I'm a newbie with this. Here is my problem: I created a title from an ACM paper, one of the most classical on my field : The entity-relationship model—toward a unified view of data
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=320440#
But, it was a surprise when I saw that there is not publisher or publisher-place information about my entry, and could not find a way to store this information. The publisher is stored in the archive entry, but the place isn't. All information is correctly represented in the site, and bibtex (its a seminal paper!)
If I can't retrive basic information such as publisher and publisher place, Zotero will be an useless tool. So I must be doing something WRONG and/or stupid ;)
I'm using the Zotero 1.01 version.
Thanks
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=320440#
But, it was a surprise when I saw that there is not publisher or publisher-place information about my entry, and could not find a way to store this information. The publisher is stored in the archive entry, but the place isn't. All information is correctly represented in the site, and bibtex (its a seminal paper!)
If I can't retrive basic information such as publisher and publisher place, Zotero will be an useless tool. So I must be doing something WRONG and/or stupid ;)
I'm using the Zotero 1.01 version.
Thanks
This is also very much the norm in other databases - not least, because journals do change their publishers and that would lead to an awful mess.
The citations to me look more like book chapters or conference proceedings (which do have publisher and place fields) so if you want to change this manually you can.
Chen, P. P. 1976. The entity-relationship model—toward a unified view of data. ACM Trans. Database Syst. 1, 1 (Mar. 1976), 9-36. DOI= http://doi.acm.org/10.1145/320434.320440
One workaround is: Use the "archive" information to get the publisher, when there is no publisher. Problem is the "publisher-location". I edited the archive, added the location. I had to adapt the csl file too (but I've got to do that anyway...)
Is this improved in some later version of Zotero?
Thanks
A Journal has a number, book chapters don't have numbers nor DOI.
And as the publisher change, I don't know how to deal with it :(
I think that the original publisher is the right one. Anyway, it would be nice if I could correct it in the database, and currently I can't add the missing information by hand.
And about my comments on Zotero, its a great tool. I just feel that it should be more extensible, so that the community could add information in cases such as this.
HEJL, E. - LEICHMANN, J.
Quartäre Tektonik am Ostrand der Bömischen Masse. In Tektonik, Strukturgeologie, Kristallingeologie. Salzburg : Universität Salzburg, 1996. s. 1-2. 1996, Salzburg 1996.
LEICHMANN, J. - HEJL, E.
Quarternary tectonics at the eastern border of the Bohemian massif: new outcrop evidence. Geological Magazine, Cambridge, Cambridge University Press. ISSN 0016-7568, 1996, vol. 133, no. 1, s. 103-105.
There is if 5 years of useless discussion about if this field "Should be at Zotero"... Changed my opinion on this product, it is just USELESS crap from people that ignores South America from generations.
Sorry to say what I think about you arrogant folk!
https://github.com/ajlyon/zotero-bits/issues/16
There are countless threads explaining this, including one
pinned at the top of the forums. You're way out of line here and I suggest you apologize.
no apologize for the incopetence of Zotero team.
From where I came, the customer should be pleased, not the inverse situation. So YOU should apologize Sr.
Do whatever you want, this is my last post, the last time I use it, the last time I will recommend this tool. In my opinion, it is crap.
Apart from that, see https://www.zotero.org/support/forum_guidelines#etiquette . Insults will do nothing but get you banned.
O Zotero gera:
HALLAL, P. C. et al. Evolution of the epidemiological research on physical activity in Brazil: a systematic review. Revista de Saúde Pública, v. 41, n. 3, p. 453–460, 2007.
Mas o formato ABNT (Brasil) pede o local de publicação, ou seja, local do periódico (i.e. São Paulo), como em:
HALLAL, P. C. et al. Evolution of the epidemiological research on physical activity in Brazil: a systematic review. Revista de Saúde Pública, São Paulo, v. 41, n. 3, p. 453–460, 2007.
That has nothing to do with where it's used. There are a significant number of missing item types and fields that affect US users and the same applies to those.
The same is true for the publisher location, so you could put this in the Extra field:
{:publisher: Penguin}{:publisher-place: New York}
This is a temporary workaround, but it should be possible to convert this data when the proper field becomes available in Zotero.
De fato, creio que o problema não deva ser tão simples de ser resolvido, caso contrário já o teriam feito.
Então, não resta nenhuma saída aos usuários senão aguardar.
Desejo que demore menos que os cinco anos da postagem geradora deste tópico.
Would you accept a patch that amends the style to use "publisher" and "publisher-place" instead when they are available? As it's currently set up, the ABNT style could only be made to work (sort of) correctly for Zotero users (and maybe Mendeley users), and that by abusing the Extra field in a way that is more reckless than the squiggly-bracket workaround.
@Frank - don't you need to enable the squiggly option in the hidden preferences?