Reverse reference order in multilingual bibliography

ferk_88
Hello!
My work maked in Microsoft Word 2010 with Zotero Firefox plugin. It's Russian language work, but bibliography have references both in Russian and English. Tell me, please, how can i change format of the references:Russian references should be at the begining of the bibliography, and then should be presented English references.
Thank's a lot!
  • adamsmith
    There is no good way of doing this.

    If you're willing to modify a citation style ( http://www.zotero.org/support/dev/citation_styles/style_editing_step-by-step )
    and you have corresponding values in the data field, you can add
    <key variable="language" sort="descending"/>
    as the first sort condition to the citation style,
    http://citationstyles.org/downloads/specification.html#sorting

    but this is
    a) not valid CSL and
    b) requires meticulous data entry, since the field content is used as is
  • ferk_88
    Thank's!I'll try it.
  • ferk_88
    I have tried it and it really work!
    Thanks!
  • nrrachev
    Hello,

    I have pretty much the same issue as ferk_88. I have references in both Bulgarian and English and have to put Bulgarian before English (i.e. cyrillic before latin). Tried to edit the style the way adam smith suggested above but besides a message that this is not a valid csl style, nothing changes.

    As far as I got it, I have to put the code above in the 'bibliography' section of the code. Is this right?

    Please, give me some suggestions how to get through this. I found Zotero just recently and am very excited about it. However, the sorting issue is something that I will have to cope with every time I make a reference list.

    Notes:
    -The style I tried to edit is based on 'Springer SocPsych (numeric, brackets)'
    -I use Zotero Standalone
    -Made the changes in Notepad++
  • adamsmith
    do you have the language field filled out for those entries?
    If so, post the style as you have it to gist.github.com, create a public gist and post a link here.
  • nrrachev
    I didn't - and when I did it really solved the sorting problem. Thanx!

    However, another problem appeared: Journal and Book names are not italicized anymore. When I cut the sorting code, the italic comes back, but the sorting is gone.

    Do you think I should create a public gist for this issue? If so, how do I cite a code that is not my own?

    Thank you.
  • adamsmith
    yeah, just put this up as a public gist. No concerns about sharing "other people's" code -- that's why we have all styles under an open license, you can do with them pretty much as you please.
  • nrrachev
    OK, I think I created a public gist with the code. Not sure if I did it right. The link is: https://gist.github.com/NikolayRatchev/114bcfb3a280bbabd7d5

    Please tell me if it is inappropriate to post the link here and if I should seek support directly through GitHubGist. I am new to these things and don't get well with them for the moment.

    Thank you.
  • adamsmith
    no, this is great, I'll take a look tonight or maybe someone else catches this earlier.
  • nrrachev
    Thank you, Adam. I can't believe how fast you're answering me. Thank you for your support.
  • aurimas
    There's nothing wrong that I can see. fbennett may have to take a look at this, since it looks like there might be something amiss in citeproc-js.
  • fbennett
    It's working fine in the CSL Edit test pane here, italics and all.
  • aurimas
    Oh yeah. I'll have to take that back. Everything seems fine in Word.
  • adamsmith
    likely the Word italics bug. No time to explain right now--do we have a knowledge base article for that?
  • aurimas
    don't think so
  • adamsmith
    nrrachev: see here: https://www.zotero.org/support/kb/italics_in_word_bibliographies

    @aurimas-take a look, see if I forgot something.
  • nrrachev
    Yeah, deleting a part of the first entry title completely solved my problem! After sorting by language, my first reference (a book) happened to have a very long title, which had to be italicized. That's why the problem only appeared after sorting by language.

    Thank you so much, adam smith and all of you!
  • aurimas
    @adamsmith take a look. I made some changes
  • adamsmith
    looks great, thanks!

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