Upgrade StorageStyle Error: [Annales. Histoire Sciences sociales]
There is a problem with the style "Annales". When I try to refer to a chapter instead of a page, chapter 4 for instance, the result in the citation is "p.4".
Here is the link to the style code:
https://gist.github.com/ettei/6772424
Can it be fixed?
Here is the link to the style code:
https://gist.github.com/ettei/6772424
Can it be fixed?
As soon as I have a little more time, I will go through the old legacy styles I contributed, there must be others with hard-coded pages...
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@clio: You have contacted github support? They're quite responsive normally.
If you do look at old styles, which would be great, also consider using cs:substitute instead of if/else-if for authors and editors. That' not just more elegant, but also typically produces better outcomes.
First I am not sure it is helpful that the style adds a dot at the end of citations (easy to fix, I fixed that with the visual editor).
Second and most troubling, why does the style add, at the end of the citations of books, the number of volumes followed by a slash ? I tried to fix that with the visual editor, but I did not succeed...
I'll let clio_13 speak to the slash issue. The general idea in the style seems to be that you'd have both a volume and # of volumes entry and then get: "vol. #vols/vol" Seems to me that should be done with a group delimiter, but I'll wait for clio on that.
The funny thing with the slash issue is that all the citations in the footnotes start mentionning the number of volumes even for books with a single volume, which results in the multiplication of an awkward "1 vol./" at the end of every title you mention in footnotes...
it seems that one can restrict the precision of the volume number to periodicals, i tried to edit the style that way, but i did not succeed
I'm travelling at the moment, making editing the style and resubmitting a bit tricky. I can try and remember when I get back or let someone else remove the volume macro.
But rather than updating the SUDOC (PICA) translator in order *not* to save this piece of information (which I first thought), maybe the CSL specs could be amended to make a difference between one and several vols ?
As to the specific issue mentioned here, the "Annales" style could be fixed by checking that both fields ("number of vols" and "volume") have a content (using a group delimiter). That's what you (adamsmith) wrote above.
What's more common with the style I use is to get "1 vol. (525 p.)" whereas I just need "525 p.", but I figure now that I can fix that in the style with the logic you described (i.e. if I rely on the fact that in these cases the "volume" field is probably empty even if the number-of-vols stores something...)
It seems to me that what's at stake here is whether we should assume that an empty vol/nb-of-vols field means that there just one volume. (a style can assume that ; a library catalog should not : what about Zotero ?) => Once this is "decided" (perhaps it has been), the recommended practice regarding these "1" follows.
I don't see why a library catalog shouldn't assume that. I believe that's the way books are entered in MARC/MABI (and hence most library catalogs), too - volume nos. only for multi-volume books. I have no idea why that's different for SUDOC, might be they're using a different MARC field to map to the PICA display, I'd have to take a look.
Generally speaking, styles need to handle situations where you have just a number-of-volumes variable and no volume variable to cite a complete multi-volume book. The reverse would typically be incomplete data (i.e. a volume but no number-of-volumes), so you could code a style to just render volume when you have number-of-volumes but I'd be reluctant to do that on the repo, as we often don't import that.
Does someone have a good SUDOC example I could look at so this makes more sense to me?
Is it a good example for you : http://www.sudoc.fr/059762772 ?
For the "1 vol." before the pagination, it is probably useless in references exported in Zotero, but - for information- , it has nothing to do with MARC flavor. It was introduced in french standard (AFNOR Standard NZ 44-050) in a 2005 revision, and this new practice is followed in Sudoc catalogue, but also by french national library.
The goal was to make french standard as close as possible to ISBD. At that time, it was ISBD(M). Since 2007, there is a consolidated version of ISBD, which still prescribes the use of "xx vol" as the "physical unit(s)" constituting the ressource (I'm not an expert, just a former cataloguer ;) ).
http://www.ifla.org/files/assets/cataloguing/isbd/isbd-cons_2007-en.pdf
"5.1.1
The first element of the physical description area names and numbers the physical unit or units constituting the resource, adding other measures of extent as appropriate. The specific material designation identifies the particular type of material to which the resource belongs and is given in the language chosen by the cataloguing agency. When none of the specific material designation terms recommended in Appendix C is appropriate, a specific material designation such as “vol.”, “parts”, or “folder” is given."
Mathieu Saby