Cannot change default style

caoviet
Dear Forum,

I am new Zotero user. I am struggling with this issue. I cannot change the default style of citations even I changed it in Default Output Format. Please help me?

BR,
  • adamsmith
    how are you creating citations?
  • caoviet
    Hi Adam,

    I change citation in Export -> Default Output Format.
  • adamsmith
    but how are you then _creating_ the citation? The default output format only affects drag&drop.
  • caoviet
    Yes. It only works with drag&drop. But I used the add-ins in Words. Could you show me how to change style by add-in option?
  • adamsmith
    Click on "Set Document Preferences" in the Word plugin:
    www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_plugin_usage
  • caoviet
    Thank you Adam.
    One more problem, when I choose a style (e.g. Chicago Manual of Style 16th edition (author-date) ). It does not have the option to show the article in Footnotes? I can only see my citations.
  • adamsmith
    Depends on the style - the author-date styles of the Chicago Manual (as described in chapter 15), has references appearing in the text in parentheses.
    If you want full citations in footnotes (as per chapter 14 of the manual) use the full note version of Chicago Manual. If you want to have author-date references in footnotes, that's not a Chicago style - International Organization does that, maybe some few other journals, but it's not very common.
  • caoviet
    Thank you very much for your extremely helpful answers, Adam.
  • sarahmurru
    Hello everyone,

    I wrote an article using Chicago Manual in footnote but then had to change it to author-date in the text.
    But for some reason, when I changed the preferences, it put it in author-date style but in footnote! So I still have footnotes in the text leading to endnotes with (author-date).

    Could you help me restore the (author-date) in the text (so there will be no more footnotes)?

    Thank you in advance
  • adamsmith
    are you sure you inserted the footnotes using Zotero (rather than insert the Footnote with Word and then insert the Zotero citation?).
    If so, you can try if you can get this right with a subsection of the document - it's possible a specific citation is breaking this.
  • sarahmurru
    No I only used zotero (insert citation) it's just that the preferences were set to have them as footnotes, all at the end of the document.

    But when I switched styles (I even tried with American Sociological Association), the format is effectively changed but they stay in the footnotes at the end of the document :s
  • adamsmith
    hmm - I vaguely recall that there was a bug with Word under very specific settings - what do you have under "Set Document Preferences" in the Word add-on?
  • sarahmurru
    Where can I find "set document preferences"? (sorry I'm lame with technology)
    But I know I have the word plug-in downloaded from the website.
  • adamsmith
    It's one of the buttons in the Zotero Word add-on - what you'd click to change the citation style (second button from the right).
  • sarahmurru
    Ok, when I click on "set doc pref" I have :
    - citation style (list)
    - format using : fields (checked) or bookmarks
    - sotre references in document (checked)
  • adamsmith
    ok, so try switching back to the footnote style. You'll have a choice between footnotes and endnotes there. Make sure to switch to footnotes. Click OK - make sure the notes are at the bottom of the page, not the end of the document. Then try switching to the author-date style again.

    (@aurimasv - am I remembering this issue correctly? I don't have Word to test. Could you maybe add a brief note to the word processor troubleshooting about this?)
  • sarahmurru
    It worked !!!!!
    Thank you SO MUCH !!
  • aurimas
    @adamsmith it's https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/32274/word-2013-zotero-lost-contact-with-bibliography/#Item_6

    As it says there, you probably should have received an error message when switching styles "Zotero experienced an error updating your document..."

    I'll add a note to the troubleshooting when I get a chance (unless adamsmith beats me to it)
  • adamsmith
    added here: https://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_plugin_troubleshooting?&#citations_remain_in_endnotes_when_switching_to_in-text_style
    improvements welcome.

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