Default of 1 or 2 entry fields for author

When I have to sometimes now [!! :-) ] add a reference to Zotero manually, I'd like the item to open with the author names as one entry field instead of two. Is there some option or internal setting to do this?
  • no. Are you sure about that, though? Note that the one field mode is only for institutional authors. You should never use it for people with a first and a last name.
  • It defaults to the last mode you used.
  • edited May 15, 2013
    I do flip the two fields after I enter the name.

    I"m just guessing but I seem to find "first last" to cut and paste more often than "last, first"

    I finally realized Dan's point about defaulting to last used. So for mutiple authors I'll enter all the names, then flip to "last, First" for each. So the next time that I create a new Zotero entry it reverts back to two fields.

    If the name filed did default to one field, then a sweet tweak would be to split at comma if one was in the text for the entry filed. so "Smith, John" (1 field) would get flipped to last "Smith" first "john"
  • edited May 15, 2013
    Why do you find yourself cutting-pasting so much into Zotero? Between web browser plugins, RIS/BibTeX/etc. imports, and the magic wand tool manual entry of items into Zotero should be minimal.
  • There is a lot of gray literature that must be entered using cut and paste. That said, I find the two extra clicks needed to format the names properly only a very minor inconvenience, if that. Given that the alternative is hand entry and that takes so many clicks to cut and paste, I have always been quite pleased that Zotero is "smart" enough to convert one field names into two.
  • I'm confused. I just realized zotero is opening with the last author field used. You suggest using the double field for authors. Which is the double field? After the author's name, there is a single box. I thought that'd be the single field, but when I hightlight it, it says "switch to a single field." Does that mean the box that's not divided is the double field? That doesn't make sense to me....
  • The box shows what you _get_ when you click on it. I.e. when Zotero shows a single box, it is currently in two-field mode, and clicking on the box puts it in single field mode and vice versa. Does that make sense?
  • FWIW, I also think that indicator is confusing, but I don't have a good alternative proposal.
  • edited May 31, 2013
    Is there any reason "single field" couldn't be equated with "Corporate" or "Institutional"? In that case I could see something like a person logo (maybe a schematic upper body like for Facebook's "Friends" for two field and and maybe an office building or so for institutional authors.
    Still doesn't solve when to display which.
  • I had the same exact though adamsmith.

    I think we should display the current setting.

    Not a great example, but for instance the Bookmark star in the URL bar shows the current state of the bookmark and not the state you would have if you clicked it. I'll look around for better examples.
  • Is there really any reason to fool with the icons for this?

    As it is now there is either a single box, or a double box.
    * If double box is displayed,then field is "single mode"
    * If single box is displayed it is in "Double mode."
    * You can click the box icon to switch.

    It seems intuitive to me.

    Zotero should display and use how ever I have it set.

    For example the "U.S. Army" isn't a "corporation." A building icon doesn't make sense...
  • If you really want a redesign here is my suggestion.

    Make it a "radio button" type control.

    For one field have rectangle with one nested rectangle. The inner rectangle is black.

    For two fields have rectangle with two nested rectangles. The inner rectangles are black.

    Which ever is active is grayed between inner box and outer box. What you are lacking is a visual clue that you can flip the format.
  • edited May 31, 2013
    Once you're editing the field, it's obvious. If you're looking at the right-hand column while in "display" mode, there is no distinction (apart from the icon) between "ACME, Inc." in single field mode and "ACME, Inc." in two-field mode. The icon makes it easy to catch a mistakenly entered author. Unfortunately, right now the icon is hard to see and is reversed (for the purpose described here).

    Edit:
    For example the "U.S. Army" isn't a "corporation." A building icon doesn't make sense...
    This is meant to be symbolic, not literal
  • I also have another concern - I don't think it's clear from the lay-out that personal authors shouldn't be in the single field. I don't have a great idea about how often people do this wrong - obviously most data is input automatically anyway - but I don't see anything about the term "Single Field" that would tell a user that s/he shouldn't just input "Adam Smith" in single field as an alternative input method to Smigh, Adam in two field mode.
  • Here's what Frank does in MLZ (which is where I must have gotten the idea):
    http://imgur.com/Mk33xII
    I don't think the institutional author logo is perfect, but I like this much better than what we have

    Re: US Army - For one, what Aurimas says, but also, in bibliographical terms the US Army is indeed a corporate author see e.g. http://lccn.loc.gov/96646723
  • I looked through the fugue icon set I think "bank" is the best for corporate authors. Other, not so great, options may include "paper-clip" and "hand-shake". For individual authors, one of the user icons would be the obvious choice.
  • I like the radio button idea in general, but we're rather space constrained here. I don't think it'd fit reasonably on smaller screens.
  • Adam, thanks for that simple explanation. No need to change the buttons on my account. Your instructions make it clear which field to use for what. My problem was that the display was not intuitive to me. I live in the stone ages, use a pc and windows, where when there are changes to be made, I get a box that has a checkmark or something on whatever mode I am in, with choices about where to change. At the risk of sounding like a complete idiot, I thought that the double box meant double field and the single box meant I was in single field. Sorry. No need for you guys to spend any more time on this. By the way, I figured out how to do the chapters by various authors in edited books, and those instructions were very clear. again, thanks.
  • @aurimas:
    I looked through the fugue icon set I think "bank" is the best for corporate authors.
    This "bank" icon is used for "Statute" at the moment.
  • I'm aware, and I remember Simon or Dan being hesitant on reusing icons, but, honestly, I don't think there would be any confusion when reusing icons in such different contexts.
  • Had a different thought....

    In drop down for Author how about another separator and add Choices like "one Name" and "Last, First"

    For a visual indicator you could underline names in one name mode.

    This way you'll gain a couple of characters on the line.
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