Urgent: Citation wrong in orginal document but works fine if copy and paste to a new document

koidl
Hi,

This is a strange one: I am using the same citation (Elisier Harvard (with titles)) in two documents. Absolutely the same setting.

In the first 'original' document (300 pages) I get the wrong citation:

(Brusilovsky and Nicola Henze, 2007)

Copy and paste that into a new document (same citation style same options as in old document)

and I get the right citation which is:

(Brusilovsky and Henze, 2007)

Same with et al

Wrong (original document):
(Nicholas J. Belkin and W. Bruce Croft, 1992; Nanas et al., 2009)

Right (second new document):
(Belkin and Croft, 1992; Nanas et al., 2009)


Any ideas what could be going on?

Also if I copy and paste a section from the old to the new document it converts fine (from wrong to right citation). But if I copy and paste the whole document its remains wrong?

Help highly appreciated - PhD hand in by the end of the week so panicking a bit here....

Technical Details:
winXP
word professional plus 2010
zotero 4.0.5
firefox 19.0.2

Cheers
  • fbennett
    There is a bug in the citation processor that throws unnecessary given names more aggressively than it should in styles like Elsevier Harvard.

    Your timing is good; I have just completed the necessary fixes.

    Please install this plugin and let us know if you get better results. (All the plugin will do is swap the new citation processor for the one contained in Zotero. You can uninstall it when the next Zotero release comes out.)
  • vaughankoopman
    thanks for this fix! I had this problem too and it seems to have been resolved after installing the fix.

    Another problem i am having is that the 'p' for page and corresponding number don't get included in the citation in the Word text, even though they appear in the citation editor when i enter them in the appropriate spaces in the Add/Edit Citation box. Am i doing something wrong or is this another bug?

    I am also using the Elsevier Harvard citation style.

    Stats:
    Firefox 20.0.1
    Zotero 4.0.5
    Word 2010
    Word: Proffessional Plus 2010
  • koidl
    edited April 18, 2013
    @fbennett you the man! thanks a mill seems to be fine now - one minor thing though in the bibliography:

    before your fix it was

    Abel, F., Henze, N., Herder, E., Krause, D., 2010. Interweaving Public User Profiles on the Web, in: UMAP. pp. 16–27.

    Now its with spacing in the second line (its not formatting here but the second line is moved in at about 10 spaces as hanging indent)

    Abel, F., Henze, N., Herder, E., Krause, D., 2010. Interweaving
    Public User Profiles on the Web, in: UMAP. pp. 16–27.


    Obviously a minor thing. I can use the format editor in word to fix it - so no immediate concern
  • fbennett
    That may be a side-effect of using the processor patch plugin -- it may be losing some of the formatting hints supplied by Zotero. Thanks for being patient.

    Great to hear that the disambiguation is working as expected now. You never know, but I think this may be the last round of disambiguation fixes we see for awhile. Over the years, the code has become more orderly and easy to control. A bit like a manuscript, in its way.
  • adamsmith
    @vaughan - do you have an example from any journal following Elsevier Harvard that includes page numbers in in text citations? It's not in their style guide and I've never seen it, so we have no indication on what to go by - this isn't really a bug, it's just not coded into the style and for all I know it may even be discouraged in those journals (in which case the style would be correct).

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