CV on zotero.org

ilyagoldin
I've been testing out Zotero's CV functionality, e.g., see http://www.zotero.org/ilyagoldin/cv . I really like how I can create a list of publications based on items already in my Zotero library!

What would make Zotero's CV generation useful to me is the following:

- CV entries that have non-numeric publication dates should be printed as such. Presently, the site is omitting "dates" for my two journal papers such as "under review" and "accepted", and that makes my CV look like I'm misrepresenting myself!
- CV entries need to be sorted from most recent to earliest, with entries with non-numeric "dates" sorted as more recent than those with numeric dates
- CV entries should have all authors spelled out (i.e., turn off or make optional the grouping by co-authors)
- URL and DOI metadata should be encoded as hyperlinks, not text

Unfortunately, the first issue above is a deal-breaker for me! I can't have a publication list that misrepresents what I've actually accomplished, so please let me know if this is not something you can fix quickly. If not, I'll have to take down this CV.
  • ilyagoldin
    Just a ping. Any comments from the developers? Thanks in advance.
  • fcheslack
    The formatting, including ordering and authors, is just done according to the style chosen. If it's displaying differently than Zotero would display it in a paper it's a bug.

    The links can be done unless someone has a reason they shouldn't be.

    As to 1, is there a reason not to keep a 'published' collection and point the C.V. at that?
  • ilyagoldin
    Actually, it seems the formatting does not obey the style chosen. I get exactly the same formatting for IEEE, APA, and NLM.

    As to 1, my true CV consists of both published and not-yet-published works. (Just as it's acceptable to cite not-yet-published works.) It's a bug that Zotero cannot handle non-numeric dates.
  • adamsmith
    The issue under 1 - do you get the for regular citations - i.e. not generated by the webpage - too? This works for me, but I don't use the CV feature.
  • fcheslack
    So it was. Try now. (shows how much I know about styles that I didn't even notice that).
  • ilyagoldin
    @adamsmith - in a Word document, the bibliography generated via the plugin does display "accepted" as a date. I haven't tested sort order in a doc.

    @fcheslak - well, you certainly tweaked something. Now I get "An error occurred" in every section of the online CV!
  • fcheslack
    Someone changed the name of the NLM style. If you save the cv settings again you should get a proper NLM (and all the other styles are fine as far as I can tell, let me know if that's not the case with your collections).
  • ilyagoldin
    Progress! Style changes now work, and non-numeric dates now display.

    Remaining issues, some cosmetic, some functional:

    - URL and DOI metadata should be encoded as hyperlinks, not text

    - All styles have unnecessary left indentation.

    - For CVs, there are two features that would be very useful for all styles, overriding the default style settings: sort order and numbering. I want to sort in reverse chronological, regardless of author, with non-numeric dates as more recent than real dates. And I want to number all publications, so that a reader looking at my CV can be easily (un)impressed.

    - IEEE needs an   between the [number] of the entry and the first author's name.

    - Style names in CV editor do not match names on zotero.org/styles (e.g., see "National Library of Medicine Grant").

    - Would be nice if CV editor had a "Save C.V." button at top and bottom of page, and a "View your C.V." link (or button) at top and bottom.
  • ilyagoldin
    Above, the forum software ate the "nbsp" entity under the item "IEEE needs..."
  • ilyagoldin
    Pinging the developers once again. Please see the above 2 comments. Thanks in advance.
  • jhemsley
    Yeah, for the cv to be useful we need to be able to sort by date, newest first.
  • jhemsley
    Why not let folks upload one style for use with their CV? That way they can modify whatever style they like, upload a style file, and have it show up in the style list for their CV?

    Alternately, allow selection from any of the available styles (certainly a drop box won't work for that).

    Alternate 2: in the settings allow the user to select a default style for the cv from the whole list.

    Looking through the styles I'm quite surprised that there isn't a CV style already.
  • adamsmith
    Since the website works through the server api, custom styles won't work. I believe allowing any style from the repository is planned on the API side, though.

    You should feel free to take a common style (Chicago, APA or so) and adapt it for CV usage and we'll be happy to upload it:
    https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/wiki/Submitting-Styles
  • ilyagoldin
    Here's an APA 6th style that's sorted in reverse chronological order: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5085947

    Could you upload that as a server-side option for the CV renderer?

    The only change from APA 6th is really

    <bibliography ...>
    <sort>
    <key macro="issued" sort="descending"/>
    <key macro="issued-sort" sort="ascending"/>
    </sort>
  • adamsmith
    there is now an APA style for CVs on the repository. I'll see if I can get fcheslack to include it in the options on the CV page.
  • ilyagoldin
    There's already an APA style that's an option on the CV page, but it doesn't sort in reverse chronological order.
  • adamsmith
    That's why I said an "APA style for CVs". The new style sorts in reverse chronological order (then by title, then by author). Since it's now on the repository, the API can use it for formatting (and it could be easily included in the list on the CV page).
  • fcheslack
    Added.
  • adamsmith
    thanks, works great!
  • ilyagoldin
    Thanks, that's a huge improvement. But non-numeric "dates" are always sorted last in reverse chronological order, so if date is missing (i.e., is displayed as n.d.), or if it's "accepted" or "under review" or "in press", then the publication is sorted even below the oldest paper. I wonder if this can even be fixed in CSL...
  • fbennett
    These should be at the top of the list?
  • adamsmith
    Yes. I think date sorting should sort n.d. and other non-numeric behind years so that they're at the top of a list that is descending (such as the new APA CV style) and at the bottom of a list that's ascending (like most regular bibliographies).
    But we should probably check that on xbiblio and include it in the specs.
  • ilyagoldin
    Right, a paper that is "under review" is newer than a paper that's already been published.
  • fbennett
    Do we have any conditionals that would catch a non-date value in the date field? If so, the position of those values could be controlled with a separate key. That would give some flexibility, in case other needs arise.
  • adamsmith
    I don't think is-numeric works on dates, so things like forthcoming or under review wouldn't be picked up, no. We could test for n.d. but that's not really satisfactory.
    I think the point is that dates aren't supposed to be literal strings, which is why the is-numeric test doesn't work. Not looking for the discussion on that on xbiblio - feel like we've had this 3 times already...
  • fbennett
    I guess you're right, it will be an issue for xbiblio. This will be awkward until "status" becomes available in Zotero.
  • timanderson
    I don't seem to be able to select a library shared with a group using the CV Manager. Is this intentional?
  • barronh
    The APA CV option truncates many authors using an ellipse. For a CV, I want the full list so that I am never omitted. Can you update the APA CV option to use an large number of authors to show?
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