Saving document to Zotero

clohman
I got a macbook pro for Christmas and have installed my zotero on this device. Initially I installed zotero standalone and used safari, but was running into an issue: safari wouldn't always provide the icon to save articles into zotero. I just assumed this was a bug with the new standalone/safari, so I just decided to install firefox and use the classic version of zotero. HOWEVER, after I did this, zotero now imports/saves the SAME ARTICLE over and over again, regardless of how many different articles I attempt to import. Its almost as if its stuck on this one page. I tried to uninstall and reinstall zotero in firefox but to no avail. Please help!
  • dstillman
    HOWEVER, after I did this, zotero now imports/saves the SAME ARTICLE over and over again, regardless of how many different articles I attempt to import.
    Can you explain this, with steps to reproduce? Unless I'm not understanding you, we've never seen anything like this.
  • clohman
    I am searching for research articles in pubmed.

    To test zotero in newly installed firefox, i added article "Sample article", then proceeded to delete it from my zotero library

    I then commenced my search for relevant/desired articles in pubmed, once I found an article I wanted, i clicked on the zotero icon in the browser window on the top of the webpage, but zotero imports "Sample article" again.

    I tried to delete, "Sample article" and try again to click the zotero icon in the browser bar but zotero again imported "Sample article" even though I was not on the page where "Sample article" could be found.

    I closed out and restarted firefox and tried again. Regardless of what article I was trying to import, "Sample article" was always the one zotero selected and saved.
  • dstillman
    After a restart, is it the first article you save each time that then gets repeated? Also, just so we're clear, it's displaying the original "Sample article" title in the Saving popup in the bottom right corner, and that's also what's getting saved to your Zotero library? So after you do this a few times, you see many versions of the same article in your library?

    Provide a Debug ID for two successive save attempts that end up saving the same item.

    You should also try disabling your other Firefox extensions.
  • dstillman
    And does this happen if you save from other sites, or just PubMed?
  • clohman
    Hi Dan,

    Not sure whether if something changed overnight or what, but I attempted to import a citation with another program and it seems to be working correctly today. I am able to import the correct citation.

    However, I am running into the same initial problem I was having with safari and zotero standalone: the zotero icon is not appearing in the browser bar all the time. It works in some websites but I am not getting one in pub med or ovid. See the links below:

    http://ovidsp.tx.ovid.com.ezproxy.ttuhsc.edu/sp-3.5.1a/ovidweb.cgi?T=JS&PAGE=fulltext&D=ovft&AN=00042752-200501000-00008&NEWS=N&CSC=Y&CHANNEL=PubMed

    http://www-ncbi-nlm-nih-gov.ezproxy.ttuhsc.edu/pubmed/15654190

    To be clear, I am currently having these problems with firefox and original zotero although I was having the problems in safari and zotero stand alone. Please let me know if there is something I can do to fix this.

    Thank you.
  • adamsmith
    ovid is currently not supported - we'll get there soon, they have already submitted a translator to Zotero and we're just dealing with the last details before it will go up.

    For the second link, the problem is that your proxy inserts hyphens into the pubmed address so Zotero doesn't recognize it. Since pubmed is open-access, I'd recommend just not using the proxy - if Zotero is automatically re-directing you, you can remove pubmed from the proxy in the proxy tab of the Zotero preferences (that last bit is Firefox only - Zotero standalone doesn't automatically re-direct you. It takes a couple of steps, so if you can't figure it out let us know.

    http://www.zotero.org/support/proxies
  • clohman
    If i remove pubmed from the proxy in my Zotero settings, will that keep me from being able to access pubmed through my university website? This will severely limit the amount of articles I have access to. Also, from what you said above, does that mean I shouldn't have this problem with standalone? Is there another reason I was having this issue with standalone? Sorry if I misunderstood you...
  • adamsmith
    I thought articles through pubmed were always open access- if that's not the case, yes, that would be a problem. But e.g. in the article above - what would you not have access to in the non-proxied version?
    The full text links all go the other databases that you could then proxy - and Zotero can help you do that automatically.

    When you log-in through your library you'll get the proxied version of pubmed. I don't think it's possible to adjust the proxy setting to this weird no-period behavior, Dan or Simon would have to say.

    As long as you are logging in through your library this will be the same for Standalone - what matters is the URL that you see. The only difference would be that standalone won't send you to the proxy automatically, Zotero for Firefox might.
  • clohman
    With my library access I am able to have access to full text articles that otherwise would not be available.

    I suppose I will have to find a way around this - to be clear, this is not a zotero issue that will be resolved in the future, correct? Would it be the university's website that causes the "no-period" behavior? Should I contact the university's IT dept?

    Thanks
  • adamsmith
    correct, I don't think that will be resolved by Zotero in the future. And yes, do ask. Typically this would be handled not by University IT, but by the library's e-resource department.

    But to clarify - pubmed doesn't itself host any full-texts that aren't open access, does it?
    The access to full-texts are through other databases like Ovid, journal publishers etc, no? You can still get those from an un-proxied pubmed.
  • RintzeRintze
    NCBI Pubmed doesn't host any full-text papers (Pubmed Central does, but that's a different site).
  • DWL-SDCA
    edited February 18, 2012
    The PubMed system allows libraries to shareinformation about their subscription holdings. Through this, in-library users have access to link to full text of subscribed journals that participate. My university has not yet implemented this, so I can't say more.
  • Simon
    We could adjust Zotero behavior to permit proxying sites with dashes, but I would be curious to know what the rationale for it is, if you can find out from your library. I'm puzzled because it looks like every other site on the proxy uses dots, and I'm hesitant to support this if it's only used for one site on one proxy.

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