JWM, same list of multiple authors, no use of et al.

ecobrett
Shouldn't the following two citations be (Faaborg et al. 2010a) & (Faaborg et al. 2010b). Full in-text and bibliographic citations below. There are no other first-author Faaborg papers included in the bibliography

(Faaborg, Holmes, Anders, Bildstein, Dugger, Gauthreaux, Heglund, Hobson, Jahn, D. H. Johnson, Latta, Levey, Marra, Merkord, Nol, Rothstein, Sherry, Sillett, Thompson, and Warnock 2010b)

(Faaborg, Holmes, Anders, Bildstein, Dugger, Gauthreaux, Heglund, Hobson, Jahn, D. H. Johnson, Latta, Levey, Marra, Merkord, Nol, Rothstein, Sherry, Sillett, Thompson, and Warnock 2010a)

Faaborg, J., R. T. Holmes, A. D. Anders, K. L. Bildstein, K. M. Dugger, S. A. Gauthreaux, P. Heglund, K. A. Hobson, A. E. Jahn, D. H. Johnson, S. C. Latta, D. J. Levey, P. P. Marra, C. L. Merkord, E. Nol, S. I. Rothstein, T. W. Sherry, T. S. Sillett, F. R. Thompson, and N. Warnock. 2010a. Conserving migratory land birds in the new world: do we know enough? Ecological applications 20 : a pub:398–418.

Faaborg, J., R. T. Holmes, A. D. Anders, K. L. Bildstein, K. M. Dugger, S. A. Gauthreaux, P. Heglund, K. A. Hobson, A. E. Jahn, D. H. Johnson, S. C. Latta, D. J. Levey, P. P. Marra, C. L. Merkord, E. Nol, S. I. Rothstein, T. W. Sherry, T. S. Sillett, F. R. Thompson, and N. Warnock. 2010b. Recent advances in understanding migration systems of New World land birds. Ecological Monographs 80:3-48.
  • fbennett
    edited October 29, 2011
    Yes, it should show et al. There is a likely cause (et-al-min should be set to at least "2"). Which style are you using?

    (Edit: disregard this comment, with my apoligies. I misread the issue.)
  • adamsmith
    I assume Journal of Wildlife Management (aka JWM). The style should be fine:
    <citation et-al-min="3" et-al-use-first="1" disambiguate-add-year-suffix="true" disambiguate-add-names="true" disambiguate-add-givenname="true" collapse="year">

    might be a csl processor bug?
  • ecobrett
    et al. work for all my other citations. I only have problems with this case where all the authors are the same. I am using Journal of Wildlife Management
  • adamsmith
    Please help us troubleshoot this, by exporting the two items in question as Zotero RDF and posting them where we can have a look:


    Select the two items in Zotero --> Right Click --> Export Selected Items ---> Zotero RDF (leave the notes & attachments boxes unchecked).

    Save the file and open it with a text editor (notepad, TextEdit, gedit).
    Select all and paste it into
    gist.github.com
    Create a Public Gist (button on the bottom of the screen) and post the URL here.
  • ecobrett
    git://gist.github.com/1325290.git
  • adamsmith
    thanks, that'll help - since I suspect that this may be a processor bug I'll let fbennett take the first stab at it - if he can't reproduce the issue we'll see about next steps.
  • ecobrett
    Another note that may relate to the problem: I often get the following error "Zotero experienced an error updating your document" and am sometimes forced to click zotero refresh before new citations appear in the bibliography.
  • fbennett
    I get the same result with those references in the latest processor release (checkin #2633). I also tried with the version used in Zotero 2.0.10 (checkin #2572), same thing:

    http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6079/screenshotsameauthors.png

    It's the logical outcome of add-names disambiguation. Since disambiguation doesn't help in this case, it should arguably fall back to just the first author + et al. I think we've discussed this before, and I hope I said that it's a tough problem on the do-list for the future. For the present, you'll either need to fix these cites before submission, or disable add-names disambiguation in the style.
  • fbennett
    I often get the following error "Zotero experienced an error updating your document"
    You'll have to take advice from the core team about that one. It may or may not arise from a problem in the processor.
  • ecobrett
    Thanks!
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