Composer as primary author

I want to suggest that, for audio recordings, composers become the new primary creator type. Classical recording citations include the composer only when they intend to list under composer in the bibliography. Otherwise they leave the composer out. Recordings in other genres also tend to omit the composer, as far as I know. Anybody can either second me or give me a specific counterexample.
  • I'm confused by what you're saying - it seems your contradicting yourself. If citations for both classical and other music usually omit the composer, why should it be the primary creator type?
  • I said that they include the composer IF AND ONLY IF the composer is the primary creator. I'm proposing the following field mapping:

    Composer - Author (primary creator)
    Performer - Editor (so that it is moved to the front if the Composer field is absent)
    Words By - Translator

    I am not worried about technically incorrect phrases such as "ed. Conductor" appearing as a result of this mapping. I will need to edit every footnote and bibliography entry to put the proper role titles in. I do want all non-Contributor creators to appear in the citation, however, in their proper positions, before or after the title, and with the proper one inverted.
  • It's tricky. CMoS has this, for example:
    3. Richard Strauss, _Don Quixote_, with Emanuel Feuermann (violoncello) and the Philadelphia Orchestra, conducted by Eugene Ormandy, recorded February 24, 1940, Biddulph LAB 042, 1991, compact disc.
    4. Billie Holiday, vocal performance of ā€œI’m a Fool to Want You,ā€ by Joel Herron, Frank Sinatra, and Jack Wolf, recorded February 20, 1958, with Ray Ellis, on Lady in Satin, Columbia CL 1157, 33ā…“ rpm.

    i.e. the first one has the composer first, the second one the performer.

    For what it's worth, what is a "primary creator" is defined in the citation style, so it would be possible to just flip this around in a custom citation style.
  • My paper also includes books, journal articles, and dissertations. Changing the citation style would make those references incorrect.

    What I am concerned right now with is knowing which Creator field names correspond to which global field names so that I know how I can get all creators to appear in the citation. I believe that you have a higher chance of coming close to the mark in all citation styles at once if you use only those variables that are in the namespace at https://bitbucket.org/bdarcus/csl-schema/src/855dcc00cba7/csl-variables.rnc .
  • edited October 20, 2011
    actually, it doesn't look like composer is currently mapped at all. That's not good. There is a csl variable composer that it should map to.
  • Frank's mappings do not include creator roles for any item type.
  • I know - that's due to the way they were generated. I just tested this out and there is no way to get the composer to show up.
  • edited October 20, 2011
    This looks like it:
    Zotero.Cite.System._zoteroNameMap = {
    "author":"author",
    "bookAuthor":"container-author",
    "composer":"composer",
    "editor":"editor",
    "interviewer":"interviewer",
    "recipient":"recipient",
    "seriesEditor":"collection-editor",
    "translator":"translator"
    }

    Composer has been mapped in the trunk since April 8, 2011. Haven't checked if this made it into Zotero 2.1.x, but it should be in 3.0.
  • edited October 20, 2011
    And if you're interested in seeing which fields are supported for which type, and don't mind really ugly Java, see: https://github.com/ajlyon/zandy/blob/master/src/com/gimranov/zandy/client/data/Item.java#L1230

    This latter bit of info is available from the Zotero API as well: http://www.zotero.org/support/dev/server_api/write_api#get_valid_creator_types_for_an_item_type
  • then maybe it's broken. I can't get this to work on the 3.0 trunk, at least not in the test panel.
  • Why is the "Performer" field the one that populates the column?

    Furthermore, the XML for the "Turabian (Full Note with Bibliography)" style does NOT include the word "Performer." Yet the creators labeled "Performer" are at the head of the citation. Why is that?
  • because performer gets mapped to author
  • Can you please give me the URL of the code you are quoting? I want to view it in the repository. Thanks!
  • Zotero.Cite.System._zoteroNameMap = {
    "author":"author",
    "bookAuthor":"container-author",
    "composer":"composer",
    "editor":"editor",
    "interviewer":"interviewer",
    "recipient":"recipient",
    "seriesEditor":"collection-editor",
    "translator":"translator"
    }
  • I want to take a look at the code that does the mapping. It would help me know which CSL variables the other creator types are mapped to.
  • this used to be in the cite.js file
    chrome://zotero/content/xpcom/cite.js
    I don't see it there on the trunk anymore, but if you're on 2.10 that should still work. doesn't mention performer, though.
  • The mapping to primary creator types (the ones in the list I provided), seems to be done in the database, so you can find the rather opaque mapping of their IDs here: https://www.zotero.org/trac/browser/extension/trunk/system.sql#L1017

    But that won't help until you dig up the mapping of IDs and human-readable names.
  • edited October 21, 2011
    I somehow believe the following is true:

    For any given item type:
    The creator role that appears first in the drop-down list is mapped as "Author."
    Second, "Contributor"
    Third, "Editor"
    Fourth, "Series Editor."
    Fifth, "Translator."

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