Psyc INFO puts first author last

ljaremka
I am using the Psyc INFO database (1967 to present) at The Ohio State University and am having trouble importing references into my Zotero library. Every time I import a reference the first author is moved to the last author. Otherwise the reference appears to import correctly. I have used other databases through OSU and have not run into any problems. I am eager to figure out a solution to this problem (other than manually fixing each entry), because Psyc INFO is the primary database I use to import references. Thank you for your help.
  • adamsmith
    sample URL? I believe it's a problem with the database, but would need a sample URL to say for sure.
  • ajlyon
    If this is using COinS, then it's a bug that should be fixed in 3.0, if not in 2.1.10.
  • ljaremka
    @adamsmith By a sample URL, do you mean a URL to one of the references I am trying to save? Unfortunately, the database is only accessible by current OSU students or employees... Is there anything I can do on my end to check on whether the issue is with the database?

    @ajlyon I am not sure what COinS is... The only info that is displayed within the Psyc INFO database is "provided by OhioLINK and the Ohio State University Libraries". I am using 2.1.10 currently.

    Thanks for your help!
  • adamsmith
    ljarmenka - just post the URL. Most databases are like that, we know what we're doing.
  • ljaremka
    Oh - I did not realize that!

    http://olc3.ohiolink.edu/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=bgtokm.2.1

    Thanks!
  • adamsmith
    is that the URL you're seeing for psycinfo? If that's the case, it's likely what ajlyon says. Hover with your mouse over the icon in the URL bar. If it says "COinS" it's the (fixed) bug he refers to and will be fixed in the next version of Zotero. If not, what does it say?
  • ljaremka
    The link I provided was for a specific reference within Psyc INFO, the link to the main database page is: http://rave.ohiolink.edu/databases/login/psyc

    When I hover over the icon it says "This web site does not supply identity information".
  • adamsmith
    no, the icon in the URL bar that you're using to get the data into Zotero.
  • ljaremka
    Oh :) Yes, it says COinS. I will download 3.0 asap! Thanks for your help!
  • ljaremka
    Ok, I downloaded and installed 3.0 but I am still getting the same problem. After I installed 3.0, I was not prompted to change my database to the 3.0 format (as the website said I would be), but it says I am using 3.0 under "about zotero". Either way, I just downloaded two references and both still had the first author listed as last author. Thanks so much for helping me with this issue.
  • dstillman
    I was not prompted to change my database to the 3.0 format (as the website said I would be)
    (The website doesn't say that for Zotero 2.1->3.0.)
  • ljaremka
    Oops, must have missed that section and read the 2.0 portion instead. So, I am definitely using 3.0 and am still having the same problem. Thx!
  • adamsmith
    please provide a debug ID for an attempt to download one item into Zotero. http://www.zotero.org/support/debug_output
    Also, could you make a screenshot of the page as you see it and put it on a free image hosting site like imageshack and provide a link here.
  • ljaremka
    The Debug ID is D2098083750 and the image is posted at http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/zoteroscreenshot.png/

    Thank you.
  • adamsmith
    Dan - is there a relevant bit in the debug?
  • dstillman
    There wouldn't be anything to look for in the debug output for the author-saving order—it just shows the saves in the order they happened. I don't know anything about that bug, though.
  • ajlyon
    The issue was over the summer:
    ajlyon@kechkene:~/development/zotero/zotsvn/zotero/chrome/content/zotero/xpcom$ svn log openurl.js
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    r10231 | simon | 2011-08-22 20:59:11 -0700 (Mon, 22 Aug 2011) | 2 lines

    Fix saving authors from COinS

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    r9805 | simon | 2011-07-10 14:40:08 -0700 (Sun, 10 Jul 2011) | 4 lines

    Closes #1859, Author misordering in COinS when rft.au and rft.aulast combine

    Thanks to Avram for the patch
  • ljaremka
    Sorry if I am missing something obvious - does this mean there is a patch for this issue? Thanks for the clarification.
  • adamsmith
    no, you're not missing anything. The patch should be implemented and in general this works. Since OSU seems to be using a unique interface to PsycInfo this is a bit tricky to troubleshoot, we're essentially working blind here.

    You could open one of the pages that does this wrong, right click ---> View Page Source (ctrl+U should have the same effect) and then search for
    class="Z3988"
    close to it you will something like:
    title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&
    only much longer - copy the whole thing (this is the COinS we talk about above) and paste it here together with a correctly formatted citation of that item (i.e. with the authors in the correct order).
    Maybe that sheds some light on this.

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