Style Request: Antarctic Science (Cambridge Journals)

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  • adamsmith
    clearly is using Mendeley - do you know which version of citeproc they use and if it works without any additional bugs?
  • fbennett
    edited June 11, 2011
    ... [a]lso, for an in press journal article, they strangely call for all authors to be listed the same, the last author is not supposed to be separated by an ampersand.
    I took this one as a typo. It might be worth checking with the editors on whether this is really their intention.
  • fbennett
    edited June 11, 2011
    For an in press journal, the words "In press" are missing after the list of authors (in place of year).
    This, too, needs to be entered in the Extra field using the "cheater" syntax:{:status: in press}
  • fbennett
    clearly is using Mendeley
    Aha. Thanks for catching that. I'll check on that side and see what the environment is like.

    @clearly: Properly speaking, any limitations that arise from the processor version and field assignments in Mendeley will be matters for Mendeley to sort out. but we'll stick with it here to pin down the issues.
  • fbennett
    @clearly,

    According to the developers of Mendeley Desktop, the current version uses an earlier version of citeproc-js (1.0.114). Most of the issues in your list are due to data that is not being passed through to the processor. The earlier processor version does not recognize the "cheater syntax", so you'll need to wait for the next release (which I've been told will be coming up in 1-2 weeks).

    When the next Mendeley release comes out, you should be able to enter data in the "cheater syntax" in the Notes tab of the right-side pane of the Mendeley Desktop to cover any fields that are not available in the main item pane. Apart from that, your support queries should be addressed to the Mendeley forums, since the people over there will know the details of the system.

    I think the only issue in your list that affects the style code is the handling of DOI and page numbers. If you can confirm my question above, I'll take a look at fixing that up.
  • clearly
    Hi fbennet,

    I only just saw your 10 (!) replies today. For some reason the alert I subscribed to via zotero forums stopped working and I assumed you had not replied since the last alert I received for your reply "fbennett Jun 7th 2011 Not forgotten!".

    I'll get onto your replies soonest.

    Thank you so much
  • ajlyon
    That's the way the forum works-- it notifies you of the first response to a thread you've been active on, but it doesn't notify you of any further activity until you visit the forum again. That is, you will only get one notification between visits to the forum.
  • cheps
    I was also just emailed a message from the forum - I didn't realize it had been so active! Thanks ajlyon for filling me in, I'll check more frequently in the future
  • clearly
    Hi fbennett,

    Thank you for your work. I had a chance to play with the style yesterday. I made one fix my side - when citing references in the text, references should be separated by a comma not a semi-colon. Apart from that, I'm now not sure what is a problem or what Mendeley is implementing incorrectly. There are other issues with Mendeley, such as when there are authors with the same surname, that clearly are not related to the style.

    For example, I'm not sure whether it is the style or Mendeley that insists on adding the article's issue number after the volume number.

    I can't confirm the DOI vs page numbers issue. Looking at current articles from the journal, it does seem to be the case that when there is a DOI, it replaces page numbers.

    Thank you again for creating this style and making fixes. You have helped me and no doubt cheps and hopefully many more people in the future.
  • adamsmith
    for DOIs - what I would assume this is - i.e. what pretty much all other styles do - is that DOIs are used for early publication (online) articles that simply don't have page numbers yet.
    As far as I can see the issue number is in the style that Frank coded, but easy to remove, as is fixing the semicolon/comma - Frank - will you fix those issues and upload the style or should I?
  • clearly
    Super work guys, thank you!
  • adamsmith
    apparently Frank lost interest ;-).
    I've fixed those two issues and uploaded the style
  • fbennett
    Thanks Sebastian!

    Sorry for the delay. Todd Rundgren has a song that fits the occasion rather well:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msVwa7yIgmM

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