APA

Woody14

When following the APA 6th edition guidelines, the first in-text citation should include all authors when there are 3 to 5 authors the first time the in-text citation is used. Zotero is not following this and is instead listing one author's name followed by et al.,. Is there a way to change this?

adamsmith

Zotero's APA style is definitely doing this right. You're positive you're a) using APA and b) this is indeed the first citation of that work? and c) there aren <6 authors?

Woody14

a) I am using APA
b) I am currently redoing all of my citations in a work document to synch my references in Zotero because I have never used the program before. Can Zotero recognize my citations even if I have never used the program before to enter them?
c) There are 3 to 5 authors

adamsmith

Could you post a couple of sample citations with 2-6 authors

Woody14

Jagadeesh, G., Balakumar, P., & Maung-U, K. (Eds.). (2015). Pathophysiology and Pharmacotherapy of Cardiovascular Disease. Switzerland: Springer International Publishing. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-319-15961-4

Woody14

Kenney, L., Wilmore, J., & Costill, D. (2012). Physiology of Sport and Exercise (5th ed.). Champaign, IL: Human Kinetics.

Woody14

Sandoo, A., Veldhuijzen van Zanten, J. J. C. S., Metsios, G. S., Carroll, D., & Kitas, G. D. (2010). The Endothelium and Its Role in Regulating Vascular Tone. The Open Cardiovascular Medicine Journal, 4(1), 302–312. https://doi.org/10.2174/1874192401004010302

adamsmith

That's from the bibliography generated by Zotero in the document?? And how do the in-text citations look?

(See https://www.zotero.org/support/kb/sentence_casing btw. to get proper casing in the citations)

Woody14

Yes, those are the references that Zotero produced for the bibliography. When I am trying to add the citation to my work for the first time, it is only appearing as Jagadeesh et al., 2015 (for example). Without the option of listing all of the authors the first time it appears in my work.

Thank you for the casing help :)

adamsmith

Could you try in a new document? Importing straight from the DOI and citing, I'm getting (Jagadeesh, Balakumar, & Maung-U, 2015) for the first and (Jagadeesh et al., 2015) for subsequent citations.

Did you use Mendeley before? Zotero would recognize those references, but not those of any other reference manager.

Woody14

I have opened a new word document and it is still occurring...I imported the articles from my desktop into Zotero, should I try to download them straight from the DOI?

No, I have not used Mendeley - I did my citations/references manually.

adamsmith

maybe try with one reference to import via DOI to make sure this isn't a data problem, but only do this once for testing, not for all references -- it shouldn't be necessary

Woody14

I tried for Jagadeesh reference - I cannot even get it to load into my library.

Woody14

I have added the copy from my desktop back into my library, and the citation still isn't working

Woody14

I also tried for the Sandoo reference which successfully added to my library from the DOI, but the citation is still not correct

adamsmith

This is all very odd -- could you try switching to Chicago (author date) and see how the Jagadeesh reference looks there?

Woody14

Still only appearing as et al., with Chicago (author date)

adamsmith

For Chicago, does it appear as (Jagadeesh et al., 2015) or as (Jagadeesh et al. 2015). Chicago Manual should _never_ print et al for 3 authors, so something is completely wrong here.

Woody14

Should I delete the program and redownload it? I'm just starting to enter my sources into the library and use it so I would be willing to do this if you think it would help?

adamsmith

No, I'm convinced there is a misunderstanding somewhere. This isn't the sort of thing a re-install would fix. Could you answer my last question about Chicago above?
(Jagadeesh et al., 2015) or (Jagadeesh et al. 2015)?

Woody14

I restarted Microsoft and Zotero and it is now working properly! Thank you for your help, it is greatly appreciated!