quotes and parenthese help with csl code

Odysseos

Hello,

I am very much a novice in csl and I'd appreciate some help with editing csl code to obtain the right style.

At the moment I get citations with single quotes and a date not in parentheses for journal citations, e.g.

Roger Mourad, ‘After Foucault A New form of Right’, Philosophy & social criticism, Vol. 29, no. 4, 2003, pp. 451–481.

1)what do I need to change to render the single quotes to double quotes?

2) How do I add parentheses to the date without a prior comma

e.g. Roger Mourad, ‘After Foucault A New form of Right’, Philosophy & social criticism, Vol. 29, No. 4 (2003), pp. 451–481.

Also,

3) In the Zotero reference pane [Zotero Standalone] I get this when I test style preview with cite position subsequent:

Individual Citations
[CSL STYLE ERROR: reference with no printed form.].

Could you advise how to fix this pls?

Warmest regards,

Louiza Odysseos

adamsmith

we'd have to see the style. Post to gist.github.com, create a puplic gist and post the link here.

Odysseos

Thanks, here it is:

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a15c4eab7bf4720e5c77

adamsmith

1) changing default-locale to "en-US" at the top of the style would work, though that also places punctuation into the quotation marks. A Hybrid of the two is a bit tricky.

2) the year is in
<text macro="date"/> and you get the comma because it's in a group with delimiter=", " -- how to change that depends on how it's supposed to look in other format than journal articles, but

<group delimiter=" ">
<text macro="volref"/>
<text macro="date" prefix="(" suffix=")"/>
</group>
would work.

3) you rely on a macro "contributors-short" that doesn't actually exist. I assume you want to change that to author-short and then change the part after the disambiguate test a couple of lines further down to title-short

Odysseos

My confusion arises from the absence of any <if-type=article_journal> specification. so the only date I can find is

</macro>
<macro name="date">
<date variable="issued">
<date-part name="month" suffix=" "/>
<date-part name="year"/>
</date>
</macro>

But it is right after publisher code, which makes me think it is for primarily for books. How/Where do I add it to this? Would this work?

</macro>
<macro name="date">
<date variable="issued">
<date-part name="month" suffix=" "/>
<date-part name="year"/>
<group delimiter=" ">
<text macro="volref"/>
<text macro="date" prefix="(" suffix=")"/>
</group>
</date>
</macro>

adamsmith

right, good styles are written in a way that makes as little reference as possible to specific item types and only uses things like if type="article-journal" (sic!) where absolutely necessary, which may or may not be the case here.

The code I suggest above would replace
<text macro="volref"/>
<text macro="date"/>
in lines 193/194 of the style you posted.

Odysseos

Thanks ever so much! That worked very well.

Odysseos

May I trouble you with another query?

I need to have the ability to include a page number with Ibid. and op. cit. where the page no in a subsequent citation differs.

Here is the style as it stands now:

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/070c330ffbeb189bde37

Thanks ever so much.

adamsmith

you want to use <text macro="pageref"/> instead of the
<text macro="point-locators-subsequent"/> (occurring at least twice) that isn't defined in the style.

Every time you have <text macro="XYZ"> you need to make sure that there actually is such a macro, defined by <macro name="XYZ">

Odysseos

Thanks, it has been an education!

Odysseos

Hello,

I have another minor query:

The style which I am working with has a comma following the title and no matter how much I tinker with delimiters I cannot get rid of it.

e.g. Mitchell Dean and Barry Hindess, Governing Australia: Studies in Contemporary Rationalities of Government, (Cambridge University Press, 1998).

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1f1eab1661d642723315

Thanks in advance for your advice!

fbennett

If the number of volumes is included, should there be a comma after "vols," before the open-parens? Or should there never be a comma immediately before the open-parens?

Odysseos

No such example is given in instructions for authors so I can only assume never a comma before the open-parens.

thanks

Odysseos

Alos in my tinkering and ignorance I have generated more problems.

My book citations with page references now look like this:

Michel Foucault, Security, Territory, Population: Lectures at the Collège de France, 1977-1978, (Basingstoke: Palgrave Macmillan, 2007), . p. 201.

and I need to get rid of the extra period following the close-parens ),

Moreover, I have somehow managed to render the ibid. with page number without a space and comma after ibid.

Please help.

Ibid.p. 28.

fbennett

Here is a copy that fixes that particular issue:

https://gist.githubusercontent.com/fbennett/6df744e3d6dbd4797227/raw/cbf6aa918f3476c04856107f1b0c7b88164ce012/oxford-art-journal.csl

It needed an extra wrapping group (inside the condition) to set the delimiter between the two (comma-delimited) blocks to a space.

There are a bunch of other problems with the style, though. (If you have a GitHub account [or sign up for one], I can send you a link to a dynamic previewer that may help you sort through the issues quickly.)

fbennett

I see that you have spotted the problems. :-)

The content of the "ibid" and "ibid-with-locator" conditions should also be switched - it is trying to render bare "Ibid." on the ibid-with-locator condition, instead of the other way around.

Odysseos

Please do, my Github account is OdysseosL. Thanks.

fbennett

I've sent a private message with the URL. If you don't receive mail, you can pick it up via the "Inbox" link at the top of this page.

(There's no cause for secrecy; the tool is just new, and there may be bugs.)