Footnote only

Hey everybody,

I am from France and have troubles finding a proper citation style for my scientific needs (I am currently writing a proposal for a marie curie fellowship).
My problem is that I want to find a Zotero style, which possess footnote in the style I want (and no bibliography).

After spending the last day looking and trying to familiarize myself with creating my own CLS file proper - in which I furiously failed - I decided to turn to this forum to get some help.

My need : A zotero style with footnote and no bibliography.
The footnote have to be like this :

Whitehead, K. A.;Langer, R.;Anderson, D. G. Nature Reviews Drug Discovery 2009, 8 (2), 129-38.

author(s), abbreviate first name. (...), journal name (italic), year (bold), volume, page number

I hope I will be clear concerning my need.
If anybody with cls-programming skills might help me, I would GREATLY appreciate!

Thanks a lot to everybody......
  • sorry, we don't do custom styles.
    You can either try yourself using
    http://editor.citationstyles.org/visualEditor/
    or you can look if you see anything that works for you in the note styles on https://zotero.org/styles (though note that they will preview the bibliography if there is one).
  • edited September 6, 2016
    I am currently trying to make this style, but have run into a few snags that I don't know how to change. Any help is welcome!

    (I started by editing the chicago-note style)
    - I want separate reference-numbers if I cite more than one reference at a time. Currently this shows up as a single superscripted number with 2 or more citations in the footnote

    - If the same paper has been cited previously, I want it to get the same citation number as before and not appear as a new footnote (i.e. reference back to a previous page). Currently, it creates a new citation-number and footnote.
    Update: I just found the if-first function, but then don't know what to do in my else statement to not get a CSL STYLE ERROR (and it still creates a new footnote each time)


    As an example, this is what I see:
    1 Case and Waterman; 2015; Nat Cell Biol; 17: 955–63; Abercrombie; 1980; P Roy Soc Lond B Bio; 207: 129–147.
    2 Lämmermann et al.; 2008; Nature; 453: 51–55; Lämmermann et al.; 2013; Nature; 498: 371–75; Ruprecht et al.; 2015; Cell; 160: 673–85.
    3 Bergert et al.; 2015; Nat Cell Biol; 17: 524–29.
    4 [CSL STYLE ERROR: reference with no printed form.].
    5 [CSL STYLE ERROR: reference with no printed form.].
    6 Liu et al.; 2015; Cell; 160: 659–72.


    and this is what I want:
    1 Case and Waterman; 2015; Nat Cell Biol; 17: 955–63.
    2 Abercrombie; 1980; P Roy Soc Lond B Bio; 207: 129–147.
    3 Lämmermann et al.; 2008; Nature; 453: 51–55.
    4 Lämmermann et al.; 2013; Nature; 498: 371–75.
    5 Ruprecht et al.; 2015; Cell; 160: 673–85.
    6 Bergert et al.; 2015; Nat Cell Biol; 17: 524–29.
    7 Liu et al.; 2015; Cell; 160: 659–72.


    - final oddity, but not super relevant, is the 129-147 format in ref 2, while all other refs are in a format that would state 129-47


    Thank you for your help!
  • Sorry, what you want can't be done with footnotes -- it's not just that CSL can't do this, Word can't do it. (This part, in particular:
    If the same paper has been cited previously, I want it to get the same citation number as before and not appear as a new footnote (i.e. reference back to a previous page)
    )

    The best I can offer you is to use a numerica style like American Chemical Society, which will display the references correctly in the text and then display them in a bibliography with the correct numbers at the end.
    If you really do need them in the footer, you can then paste them from the bibliography to the footer on the right page.
  • edited September 6, 2016
    Two additional questions about formatting:

    - How do I change the formatting of the footnotes? It is currently really odd. My document's layout is in Cambria-11. In the footnote, the superscripted footnote number in times new roman-10, while the footnote content is in the Cambria-11 as well. The exception to this is when I reference a website, in which case the content is also times new roman-10. (Note that I created an if-webpage condition to give this a different format than journal articles)

    - Is it possible to get the next footnote on the same line rather than separate lines? or would that be a word setting that I can't find? (or simply not possible?)
  • (Same there -- can't be done with Word footnotes)
  • sorry, you answered that one before i could edit it.
    Anyway, another question about formatting is:

    - How do I change the formatting of the footnotes? It is currently really odd. My document's layout is in Cambria-11. In the footnote, the superscripted footnote number in times new roman-10, while the footnote content is in the Cambria-11 as well. The exception to this is when I reference a website, in which case the content is also times new roman-10. (Note that I created an if-webpage condition to give this a different format than journal articles)
  • Zotero/CSL doesn't do fonts; they're getting set somewhere in Word. I'd start by checking the style (that's the Word style, nothing to do with Zotero) associated with footnotes.
  • OK, so I've created a csl that works reasonably well for Marie Curie applications. It is a somewhat specialized thing, but I do think it could be of use to others as well and may be worthwhile having in the repository.

    That being said, there are a few considerations:
    - They don't stipulate very specifically what they want, except that references should be in footnotes. I have chosen a format that I think works well for this application as it is fairly brief but has all info required for an expert to know which paper it is immediately, and a non-expert to easily find the appropriate paper.
    - I have only formatted item types I needed for my own application, being journal articles, book sections, and websites.
    - The footnote format has some shortcomings, as I stipulated above (Sept 6), specifically 1) re-citing the same paper will result in a new footnote (undesirable due to space limitations). As a workaround, in each subsequent citation to the same paper, the references just states 'see ref. X'. After finalizing the document, these citations can be removed manually and replaced with the appropriate superscripted number (remember to do zotero-refreshes regularly so that citation numbers are updated). Make sure to do this at the very very end, as it will not be dynamically updated if citations are inserted/deleted from the middle.
    - Specific limitation 2) multiple citations in a single zotero field will result in a single footnote (undesirable because it is not compatible with workaround described above, and I think it is generally confusing/ugly). The workaround for this is simply to have each citation in a separate zotero field.
    - Note that the bibliography is not used at all in this case. I didn't delete it from the style as I don't think there's a reason to and it may be useful while working on the application.

    While this is clearly not an ideal or proper citation style, I think nothing that works for this particular fellowship application is, and this solution is still less work than doing it fully manual.

    Given all of this, would it be worthwhile to add this to the repository? If not, is there some kind of a 'work-in-progress' database or other location I can leave this style for people that may be interested?
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