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  1.  
    Dear all,
    Dear adamsmith,

    did you have by chance some time to look into the translator?

    Thanks in advance
    • CommentAuthoradamsmith
    • CommentTimeFeb 6th 2012
     
    sorry, not yet.
  2.  
    Hi everybody!
    Adamsmith, may I stress you?

    :)))))))))))))))

    Alex
    • CommentAuthoradamsmith
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2012
     
    hey, try this:
    https://gist.github.com/1888964
    Download using the raw link on the top right and save into the Zotero translator directory, which is a subfolder of the Zotero data folder: http://www.zotero.org/support/zotero_data , replacing the old file with the same name (it the old bibtex translator has a different filename you'll need to make sure to replace it).
    You may have to restart FF/Zotero.
    This should do most of what you want except the filing date - that would be more complicated and frankly I don't quite understand what's going on in the translator there.
    I've done this quickly, so let me know how it goes.
    • CommentAuthoradamsmith
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2012
     
    this one should input and output patent - I'll raise with noksagt how and which of these changes can be integrated into the general Zotero/bibtex translator. I'd think a lot of what I did could be left in w/o problems - definitely language, probably country, maybe assignee and number, considering that it's not in standard bibtex. We'd probably want to limit patent as an item type to import and continue exporting out @misc.
  3.  
    Hello.
    I followed you instructions and replaced the .js file. And restated ff.

    I look for the same patent on two platforms (google and freepatentsonline). The import is working good only for the latter.
    On export on bibtex format I got the same behavior on the previous one: exported as @misc where the 'inventors' become 'author' and the 'patent number' disappeared :S :(

    You can download my .rdf file from here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25682954/zotero/Exported%20Items.rdf
    And the converted .bib from here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25682954/zotero/Exported%20Items.bib
    • CommentAuthoradamsmith
    • CommentTimeFeb 23rd 2012
     
    • CommentAuthoradamsmith
    • CommentTimeFeb 23rd 2012
     
    try again - @patent and the number should now work.
    In all the bibtex specs I can see, inventors in the patent type are supposed to be "author"
  4.  
    Hello adamsmith.

    It's working now. :)

    Thanks very much!!!

    Alex
    • CommentAuthorfbennett
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2012
     
    If anyone who works with patent references is following this thread, it would be great you could take a look at a proofsheet I've just put up on the CitationStylist site. Comments would be helpful; I don't have a very clear idea what these cites should look like in the wild. If something should be adjusted, let me know.
    • CommentAuthortnemeth
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2012
     
    Hi fbennett,
    Thank you for implementing this!

    AFAIK, the CMS is not entirely correct.
    It should be:

    Format: Names, Creator. Patent title. Patent number, and year of filing.

    Example 1: Iizuka, Masanori, and Hideki Tanaka. Cement admixture. US Patent 4,586,960, filed June 26, 1984, and issued May 6, 1986.

    So no need for the parenthesis and the designations 'inventors' and 'assignee'.

    There is a summary of styles that seems reliable here:

    http://instr.iastate.libguides.com/content.php?pid=44041&sid=1666876

    Hope that helps a little.
    • CommentAuthorfbennett
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2012
     
    A fix for Chicago is now up. Thanks for the link to the guide; I'll restrict myself to the six styles in the CitationStylist set for the present, but that's useful information.
    • CommentAuthortnemeth
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2012
     
    Thanks for the quick fix. I tried downloading and installing the new style, but the results in Word don't look like the test doc you posted. Is that expected?
    • CommentAuthorfbennett
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2012 edited
     
    The proofsheets are done using the MLZ styles, and I see that I haven't yet put Chicago up there (and I see that I haven't yet put Chicago up there -- coming up in a jiffy). In any case, the MLZ styles won't work correctly in real Zotero (yet) because they rely on some input data that is not yet officially supported. The macros that generate that output are completely standard though, so this can be added to the Chicago styles in the Zotero repo.

    @adamsmith: Shall I go ahead and do that?
    • CommentAuthoradamsmith
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2012
     
    yes, please do.
    • CommentAuthorfbennett
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2012
     
    Whoops. The macros do require some extensions. The jurisdiction is derived from the jurisdiction variable (from a controlled list of codes for countries, federal sub-units, and international organizations), mapped to a printed form by the Abbreviations Plugin (so us -> U.S.). So I guess it stays out for now.

    @tnemeth: I'll put up a link to the MLZ Chicago version soon. It will work properly only with the MLZ version of the Zotero client, which is unsupported (meaning that if you run into difficulties, the core Zotero developers won't answer queries because it's not their code, and hasn't [yet] been reviewed for adoption). If you decide to give it a trial anyway, you'll need to run it with the Abbreviations Plugin as a companion, available from the same site.
    • CommentAuthortnemeth
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2012
     
    @fbennett I've been playing around with the MLZ version, so no problem there. I'll be happy to try the Chicago style with MLZ and the abbreviations plugin as soon as they are ready. Thanks!
    • CommentAuthorfbennett
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2012
     
    Some things are still under construction in the styles, but CMS is now linked from the site.
    • CommentAuthortnemeth
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2012
     
    Thanks but it doesn't work yet (or I am doing something entirely wrong). I have the latest MLZ client 3.0m90 installed, and the Word for Windows Integration 3.1.6. Installed the style you linked to and get this as a result for a patent:

    Sholes, Christopher Latham, Carlos Glidden, and Samuel Soulé. ‘Type Writing Machine’. Milwaukee, Wisconsin, June 23, 1868.

    Any idea where the problem might be?
    • CommentAuthorfbennett
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2012
     
    Looks like a secondary resource. Do you have the jurisdiction field set? In the Extra field, you should have something like "{:jurisdiction:us}".
    • CommentAuthortnemeth
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2012
     
    Oh, I didn't realise that. Is there a documentation of the MLZ version I have to read first?

    When I add the {:jurisdiction:us} to the Extra field, Zotero returns the following error:

    Zotero experienced an error updating your document.
    TypeError: ItemObject is undefined
    • CommentAuthorfbennett
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2012
     
    Great stuff (it's actually useful when things break, so that's not entirely meant in jest). It looks like something about the patent number may be triggering this. Can you export the item and save it as Zotero RDF, then paste it to http://gist.github.com, save it as a Public Gist, and post the URL from the address bar back here? I should be able to replicate the fault with your data, and fix the problem in the processor. Thanks for looking at this -- and I hope we're able to get it working satisfactorily for you v. soon.
    • CommentAuthortnemeth
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2012
     
    I hope I did it correctly:

    https://gist.github.com/2183978
    • CommentAuthorfbennett
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2012
     
    Great, thanks. Not sure what triggered it, but there was an obvious potential bug affecting number, which is now squashed. Another small glitch in MLZ blocked import of the item you posted (oops), and that's also now fixed. The revised MLZ client is now up, so updating should bring in the fixes for you.

    With {:jurisdiction:us} in the Extra field, it now yields a correct citation, but with a lowercase "us". If the Abbreviations Plugin is installed, you can open the Classic View in the word processor plugin (from the Z icon, if using the quick-input mode), and then the "abbrevs." button will bring up the abbreviation lists. Selecting the "place" listing should show abbrevs for "us" for two jurisdictions (default and us). Setting US in both should do the trick. You only need to set the abbreviation once; it persist for future sessions in the same style.
    • CommentAuthortnemeth
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2012
     
    Great, this works - largely! As I don't only deal with US patents, I added the all-cap UK abbreviation in the same way as for the US. It displays correctly, but returns me this error:

    TypeError: state.tmp.shadow_numbers[varname] is undefined.

    There also seem to be some issues with multiple references to the same patent and with the addition of page numbers to the reference.

    Here is a gist of the .rdf:
    https://gist.github.com/2192628

    There seem to be a few things going not quite right, explaining them in detail here might be difficult.

    If that helps I could also send you off-list the document with the patent references in situ.
    • CommentAuthorfbennett
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2012
     
    Sorry about the error; I'm still not able to reproduce it here, but I see where that fault would be triggered (it's the same error you had before, but in a different guise). I've put up a fresh release that will avoid it. If you update MLZ, it should go away.

    Detailed guidance on things that are out of whack would be great indeed. Will send you a note off-list.

    I've been yanking the style source around quite a bit today, and one set of changes affected the supplementary locators on patents. Before finalizing comments, it's worth reinstalling the MLZ Chicago style from the website, selecting another style, then switching back. The flaws will be the latest flaws. :)
    • CommentAuthorfbennett
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2012
     
    Patent cites should be correct now in the MLZ styles. If there are problems, let me know.
    • CommentAuthorkbares
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2012
     
    Hi everyone...having just read through this full thread, I'm left wondering if there's a solution to cite patents directly through Zotero. I went to http://citationstylist.org/tools/ and installed the MLZ Chicago Manual of Style (Full Note) style. This is the format I'm getting in a generated bibliography:

    Ishida, Shigeki, Masakazu Toyoda, and Kinya Masuda. 2004. “Topdressing Method and Apparatus Therefor.” http://www.google.com/patents/US6750898.

    Based on the discussion above, I was expecting to see the patent number in the bibliography, and maybe not the link to Google Patents. Is there a step I'm missing? I'm using the Zotero stand-alone v. 3.0.8

    Thanks! -Kent
    • CommentAuthoradamsmith
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2012
     
    using the MLZ styles requires the MLZ Zotero client to work correctly. (see that same page). That will only work as a FF add-on, doesn't as of yet come as standalone (though it would probably be relatively easy to build if s.o. were motivated).
    • CommentAuthorkbares
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2012
     
    Okay--thanks for letting me know.
    • CommentAuthoradamsmith
    • CommentTimeAug 30th 2012
     
    the changes to the bibtex translator discussed above are now up, handling patents should be improved.

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