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Omegatron added embedded data to the citation templates on WP. Thus, if you go to a page which has citations (like ), you'll be able to grab those references.
Perhaps it would make sense to embed the article citation COinS tag on the main page for all articles? Any included references would also show up as importable citations.
I was confused by the lack of any reference or any button on the Special:Cite page ... I now realize why this is the case, but I can also see how others might be similarly confused.
Yes, yes I know, I should tell Zotero to "Create New Item From Current Page" to grab the WP page into my collection.
Yes, I could do this myself, by clicking on Permanent link, but I'd prefer it if Zotero had an option that I could enable to perform this.
I think mousekitty wants a robust way to grab data from WP into Z. Sure it would be nice if Z populated the Website Title field and other fields in the Web Page Template, but I think mousekitty was asking for a WP specific Template which includes, say, a reference, or flag, for any images; # of revisions, talk page flag, list of contributors, # of revisions, creation date, date of last contribution, etc.
I think you're going to tell me that a Cite in Zotero button on the Special:Cite page is not going to fly, but how about including in the Important Note something about Zotero and similar tools and one line on how to add the WP page to your collection.
am I correct if I say, "Omegatron has embedded data in the citation templates on WP so that WP pages now display a nifty icon which when clicked will list all sources referenced in any WP article"?
I have not yet thought about, much less used Zotero to insert content in to the WikiPedia, so I'll discuss that at a later date.
or we could add COinS to the article itself by asking the developers to modify Mediawiki. Since the "journal" format isn't really appropriate, though, I'd want to wait until the correct format is settled on before changing the software.
I think embedding self-describing COinS on a web page is a dirty hack (mostly because of the relative narrowness of the OpenURL spec, such as the typing that you bring up).
I think it'd be great to get changes into MediaWiki, but would have a slight preference for embedded RDF and/or unAPI. I think there's already been work on RDF extensions, but haven't followed any of it closely.
Ok. Is it appropriate for the "Cite this article" page?
Most pages which have embeddded RDF use meta tags in the page header--this paradigm is obviously used to write metadata about the current webpage, and might be useful for clients other than Zotero (which self-describing COinS entries don't really seem to be). While RDF in HTML can also describe other things, I don't know if there is a strong case to use it over COinS on the "Cite this article" page.
This is not English:ContextObjects in Spans, commonly abbreviated COinS, is a method of embedding latent OpenURL ContextObjects in web pages. This allows client software to retrieve bibliographic metadata and to use an OpenURL resolver to find a mediated link.
Since anything other than COinS can't be done on a user level,
Wikipedia:WikiProject Microformats is related, and maybe the right place to discuss this further?
Agreed. :-) I'm the major person adding these things to Wikipedia, and I don't even really know what they are; I just know what they're useful for.
Now that I look at it, we can do microformats from userspace, as demonstrated on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HCard#Live_example , since it's just divs with special classes. The citation one isn't finished yet, though?
ANY self-describing format (COinS included) can't be done on a user level.
Sounds good to me--kick it off & provide a link.
we can also already embed RDF in userspace.
Agreed. :-) I'm the major person adding these things to Wikipedia, and I don't even really know what they are; I just know how to use 'em
OpenURL is a type of URL that contains resource metadata for use primarily in libraries. The National Information Standards Organization (NISO), has developed OpenURL and its data container (the ContextObject) as international ANSI standard Z39.88. On 22 June 2006, OCLC was named the maintenance agency for the standard.
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