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- CommentAuthorJonEP
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2009
It would be great to have a right-click option for stand-alone attachments that would "create new blank entry for this item"--you select it, and your stand-alone attachment is now attached to the new blank entry.
Reason for this request: I have created links to a large number of files (pdfs and docs) in the folder that serves as a repository for academic and other articles in my Documents folder. Many of these produce no results (or false results) when I attempt to Retrieve metadata for PDF. If I could right-click and select this new feature, I'd have the attachment all of a sudden attached; if I were viewing the file with Zotero, I could then begin entering data into the Info section.
Currently, this task requires creating a new, blank entry, then searching down in the links for the stand-alone item, then dragging it onto the new blank entry. -
- CommentAuthorDan Stillman
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2009
I would think the desired changes would be to 1) have "Retrieve Metadata for PDF" produce a blank parent item if it fails and 2) have a menu option to create a blank parent item in place of "Retrieve Metadata for PDF" for other attachment types. -
- CommentAuthorJonEP
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2009
Yes, that sounds much better.
Regarding 'retrieve metadata for PDF' -- I notice that in this "retrieve" process, as well as in the ISBN - lookup (add item by identifier), Zotero will sometimes import an incorrect reference. Further, when looking up items on Google scholar in my browser, I see that there are often multiple entries for (more or less) the same item--often the second or third is the more appropriate choice, having the complete title, the correct item type, etc. I wonder if, in cases where Zotero is forced to choose among multiple options, it might be possible to give the user the opportunity to select the correct option?
It would also be useful to allow the user to accept or reject the option that Zotero determines to be correct (ie., select none, or select a blank entry instead). As an example, MediaMonkey, a media-management program, has a well-crafted option for users who seek to import tags, album covers, etc., for an album in their digital collection--they can click through various versions of "Exile on Main Street," for instance, to find the one with the largest album art, the correct "limited edition" with additional songs, etc. -
- CommentAuthorBionatsci
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2009
I wonder if, in cases where Zotero is forced to choose among multiple options, it might be possible to give the user the opportunity to select the correct option?
Just thinking aloud here but does google make it's search scores accessible to programs such as Zotero?
If so this could form the basis of a rule for whether to show a manual selection box (e.g. scores within x% of the top score, up to y results in total, are shown). -
- CommentAuthorDan Stillman
- CommentTimeJul 7th 2009
"Create Parent Item from Selected Item" is implemented in 2.0b6, available now. It works on standalone attachments and notes. -
- CommentAuthorJonEP
- CommentTimeJul 7th 2009
This helps! Would it be possible to extend this behavior to links? -
- CommentAuthorHeckscher
- CommentTimeJul 20th 2009
"Create Parent Item from Selected Item" works for me on right-click of an unattached note, but not for an unattached PDF file. Am I doing something wrong? -
- CommentAuthorDan Stillman
- CommentTimeJul 20th 2009
Heckscher: It's not an option on PDF files at the moment. We'll likely be merging "Create Parent Item from Selected Item" and "Retrieve Metadata from PDF" into a single option that creates a blank parent item automatically if the PDF recognition fails. -
- CommentAuthorHeckscher
- CommentTimeJul 20th 2009
Brilliant (as the British say) -
- CommentAuthorfgregg
- CommentTimeDec 2nd 2009
+1 -
- CommentAuthorkithairon
- CommentTimeDec 17th 2009
"We'll likely be merging "Create Parent Item from Selected Item" and "Retrieve Metadata from PDF" into a single option that creates a blank parent item automatically if the PDF recognition fails."
@Dan: I wonder whether there are any news on this issue? On most of my PDFs (many of them from old journals) the "Retrieve Metadata"-function doesn't produce the desired result. It's very sweet if it does – as is the fantastic "Rename file from parent metadata".
Thanks, kithairon -
- CommentAuthorchestergk
- CommentTimeDec 17th 2009
This would be a great feature. I've been running into this very frequently with some new users I'm trying to sign up. They are becoming frustrated with the extra clicks of merging their old research with the new. -
- CommentAuthorpromente
- CommentTimeJan 31st 2010
+ to this one. I work with a lot of grey literature pdfs where there will never be any metadata for it. Creating a parent item (starting with the same name as the pdf by default) would be a big boon. -
- CommentAuthorJonEP
- CommentTimeFeb 4th 2010
It would still be nice to be able to do this ('create parent item') from a standalone link. Thanks. -
- CommentAuthorhumiuser
- CommentTimeFeb 4th 2010
+
It would be great to have this feature in zotero!
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