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- CommentAuthorbugmenot
- CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
hey all,
I'm looking for a style that uses the first letter(s) of the author's name as reference. something like this:
... as seen in [Ferr78]. Also mentioned in [LaCh87]...
and in the bibliography:
Ferr78. Domenico Ferrari. Computer Systems Performance Evaluation. Prentice
Hall. 1978.
LaCh87. Shui Fong Lam und K. Hung Chan. Computer Capacity Planning: Theory
and Practice. Academic Press, Inc., Orlando, Florida, USA. 1987.
is there anything similar around here that I could take as a template? the stlye is used by the springer LNCS and the LaTeX-style is available online. http://www.springer.com/computer/lncs?SGWID=0-164-7-72377-0
thanks for your help! -
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CommentAuthormark
- CommentTimeJan 6th 2009
I haven't seen a style like that (and I don't know whether CSL is up to it), but you can preview all existing styles at http://www.zotero.org/styles. Uncheck 'show dependent styles' to weed out most duplicates. -
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- CommentAuthorbugmenot
- CommentTimeJan 6th 2009
thanks for your reply. I've checked the style previews but didn't find anything that could help. the style is quite common at my university (Karlsruhe, Germany) so it would be great to have it supported by zotero. -
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CommentAuthormark
- CommentTimeJan 6th 2009
So what is the algorithm there? Four letters, filled up by either the only author's name or the first letters of multiple names? What to do with five authors? Also, how do you disambiguate centuries in a two-digit year?
In short, can you provide more examples and preferably a complete descriptive style guide? -
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- CommentAuthorbugmenot
- CommentTimeJan 6th 2009
okay here's how the style works:
one author: first 4 letters of name
two authors: first 2 letters of author1, first 2 letters of author2
three authors: first 2 letters of author1, first letter of author2, first letter of author3
four authors: first letter of each author
more than four authors: first letter of first four authors
after that two digits of the year. century-disambigution is ignored.
if the symbol is exactly the same for two references, a letter is attached.
examples:
[BiDB79] Biskup, J.; Dayal, U.; Bernstein, P.A..: Synthesizing independent database schemas. In: ACM SIGMOD 1979 Int. Conf. On Management of Data Proceedings, S. 143-151.
[BeBe79a] Beeri, C.; Bernstein, P.A.: Computational problems related to the design of normal relational schemas. ACM Trans. Database Syst., No. 1, 1979, S. 30-59.
[BeBe79b] Beeri, C.; Bernstein, P.A.: Computers are stupid. ACM Trans. Database Syst., No. 4, 1979, S. 253-266.
the latex-cls-file can be found at http://www.springer.com/cda/content/document/cda_downloaddocument/llncscls.zip?SGWID=0-0-45-72925-0 if that helps anyone.
I really appreciate your help -
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CommentAuthormark
- CommentTimeJan 8th 2009 edited
I'm waiting for bdarcus to come along. He knows whether this is at all possible in CSL. I am not aware of any options that let you pick out first letters in this fashion. -
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- CommentAuthorbdarcus
- CommentTimeJan 8th 2009 edited
This is not possible ATM. Essentially, this is a class of style that uses a key to label the citations. Moreover, this particular style is specifying the required algorithm to generate the key. The first is covered by CSL (but not Zotero), but the second is not. -
- CommentAuthorbugmenot
- CommentTimeJan 8th 2009
thanks four your reply.
so the point is that zotero (and CSL) can't split up the letters of the name or it can't do this in dependence of the number of authors?
another idea: do you think it would be possible if I generate the key manually, insert it in an unused field (let's say the "extra"-field which is available for all types of citations) and use this field as reference in footnotes?
not the best way but maybe it could work out. i really don't want to miss zotero when writing my bachelor thesis which has to use this citation style :-| -
- CommentAuthorfbennett
- CommentTimeJan 8th 2009
@bugmenot: with appropriate adjustments to a personal CSL style file, this should work fine. The variable in CSL that contains the contents of the Extra field is "note". )Be sure to change the title and ID field in the CSL, so you can identify it in the selection list, and Zotero won't clobber it during an upgrade.) -
- CommentAuthorbdarcus
- CommentTimeJan 8th 2009
You can do that, but it's only a short-term stop-gap, since this wouldn't be a standard usage of CSL; the style would effectively be specific to you. Zotero needs to add support for key storage and/or generation. -
- CommentAuthorbugmenot
- CommentTimeJan 13th 2009
for sure it's not ideal, but it's a requirement for my thesis to use this style.
I've found some more information about it on wikipedia - it doesn't help solving the problem but giving the style a name and a hint that it is also used by others ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citation#Sciences
The AMS styles, e.g., AMS-LaTeX, are styles developed for the American Mathematical Society (AMS), typically implemented using the BibTeX tool in the LaTeX typesetting environment. Brackets with author’s initials and year are inserted in the text and at the beginning of the reference. Typical citations are listed in-line with alphabetic-label format, e.g. [AB90]. This type of style is also called a "Authorship trigraph." -
- CommentAuthorduffy6
- CommentTimeJun 6th 2009
In many german universities you have to citate in this way.
e.g. I already had to do 2 thesis in this way. And I am now looking for a easy way with zotero.
Still no solution?
cya,
duffy6 -
- CommentAuthorbugmenot
- CommentTimeJun 6th 2009 edited
I finished my Bachelor thesis last week with the solution of manually inserting the key to the "extra"-field as stated in my last post. if you have problems with this, contact me (in german if you like) at drhrdh@discardmail.com
an easier solution hasn't been found yet, sorry.
cheers -
- CommentAuthorkomrade
- CommentTimeAug 28th 2009
@ bugmenot
Maybe you could add details of your solution here for others to use:
http://www.zotero.org/support/kb/ams_alphabetic -
- CommentAuthorbugmenot
- CommentTimeAug 29th 2009
Well, I would like to but I don't see an edit button on that page after login ;-) What do I have to do?
The general solution is: Just put the reference code (e.g. "HaSe08") to the 'Extra' field in your bibliography and add "<text variable="note" prefix="[" suffix="]"/> to your CSL-file where you want it to be shown. -
- CommentAuthorkomrade
- CommentTimeAug 29th 2009
The login for the wiki is separate from the forums:
http://www.zotero.org/support/?do=register
Oh, and do you know what that type of citation is called? Any official style guides?
I've just called it the "authorship trigraph" style, based on the Wikipedia page, but I can't find it in any official guides, except one LaTeX manual for the American Mathematical Society. -
- CommentAuthorKasimirK
- CommentTimeNov 4th 2009
@bugmenot
do you still have your cls file - it would be really useful for me!
Thanks! -
- CommentAuthortumsi
- CommentTimeFeb 6th 2010
As described above I change an existing style to be able to use this special author style with Zotero. But unfortunately, I got errors trying to use this new style with the Zotero Processor Plugin for Word.
Visual Basic Error
runtime error '9':
Index out of bounds
Has somebody worked it out to use this style with Word? -
- CommentAuthoradamsmith
- CommentTimeFeb 6th 2010
@tumsi - what exactly did you do? Without seeing the style you tried to use this is impossible to troubleshoot. -
- CommentAuthortumsi
- CommentTimeFeb 6th 2010
After some trying I found my error. I changed the sorting key to the variable note (contains my reference code). Leaving the sorting key unchanged in the used style removed this error.
Now, I have all I want to have :-). My own reference code in bibliography and text.
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