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Troubleshooting: bugs when citing multiple works by the same author

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    • CommentAuthorbgeer
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2008 edited
     
    Using Zotero 1.0.3 with the OpenOffice plugin and Chicago Manual of Style author-date format, I've encountered several bugs when citing multiple works by the same author.

    Given the following three items (two books and a book chapter):

    Bourdieu, Pierre. 1984. Distinction: A Social Critique of the Judgement of Taste. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press.

    Bourdieu, Pierre. 1987. Choses dites. Paris: Les Éditions de Minuit.

    Bourdieu, Pierre. 1987. Legitimation and Structured Interests in Weber's Sociology of Religion. In Max Weber, Rationality and Modernity, Ed. Scott Lash and Sam Whimster, 119-136, London: Allen & Unwin.

    Bug 1:

    I create a citation with two sources, citing page 100 in "Distinction", and page 200 in "Choses dites". Result:

    (Bourdieu 1984, 1987, 100)⁠

    That can’t be right. The page number for "Choses dites" is missing, and you can’t tell which work page 100 is referring to. I think it should be:

    (Bourdieu 1984, 100; 1987, 200)

    Bug 2:

    If I cite both "Choses dites" and "Legitimation and Structured Interests" in the same document, I get:

    (Bourdieu 1987)⁠

    (Bourdieu 1987)⁠

    It should clearly be:

    (Bourdieu 1987a)

    (Bourdieu 1987b)

    Bug 3:

    Having cited all three works, I generate the bibliography, and I get:

    Bourdieu, Pierre. 1987. Choses dites. Paris: Les Éditions de Minuit.

    Bourdieu, Pierre. 1984. Distinction: A Social Critique of the Judgement of Taste. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press.

    Bourdieu, Pierre. 1987. Legitimation and Structured Interests in Weber's Sociology of Religion. In Max Weber, Rationality and Modernity, Ed. Scott Lash and Sam Whimster, 119-136, London: Allen & Unwin.

    There are two problems here. First, the works should be arranged in chronological order. Second, the author’s name should be replaced by a long dash after the first occurrence.
    • CommentAuthorbgeer
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2008 edited
     
    All three bugs also occur in Harvard format.
    • CommentAuthorerazlogo
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2008 edited
     
    All these bugs are fixed on the dev branch and in the version of the Chicago Author-Date style available from the Dev Styles section at http://www.zotero.org/styles/ The public style will be automatically updated when 1.0.4 comes out (should be soon).

    Not sure about the Harvard format, but bugs should be fixed there also.
    • CommentAuthorbgeer
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2008
     
    Great, thanks, I'll be looking forward to 1.0.4.
    • CommentAuthorbgeer
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    I've just tested Zotero 1.0.4 (with Firefox 3 Beta 5), and all three bugs are still there.
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    You shouldn't need to, but try clicking Reset Translators and Styles in the Advanced pane of the Zotero prefs. I just tested these with 1.0.4/Chicago Author-Date, and all three bugs appear to be fixed. Harvard still displays two "(Bourdieu 1987)" citations without indicating which is which, but I don't know what the expected behavior is there.
    • CommentAuthorbgeer
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    Yes! That fixed it! Thank you very very much!
    • CommentAuthorByteRyder
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2008
     
    I've encountered an additional problem with American Psychological Association style using OpenOffice.org and Zotero 1.0.4 (which, btw, is considerably faster than 1.0.3 - thanks!). I have 3 references by the same author and want to cite them in the text as follows:

    Fuster (1987, 1998, 2002) suggested that . . .

    But Insert Citation doesn't allow "multiple sources" and "suppress author" to be selected together. My workaround has been to use "view editor" and manually remove the author. Still, this is a "legal" way to cite references in APA style and should be supported.
    • CommentAuthorTjowens
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2008
     
    Ticket created.

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