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    • CommentAuthorbdarcus
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    @nas: can you send it to me off-forum? I'll take a look and clean it up where appropriate.
    • CommentAuthornas
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    Done.
    • CommentAuthorIsis
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
    Any expected date yet for the new version? I need to clean up a draft and would LOVE to be able to just Zotero-ize it

    Thanks!
    • CommentAuthorbdarcus
    • CommentTimeMay 24th 2008
     
    I've just checked in the changes that nas made, though I didn't really have a chance to do much with it, nor to test it.

    Also, there was one major question mark I had (namely whether the 'source' macro is really needed), which is included as a comment in the file.
    • CommentAuthorIsis
    • CommentTimeMay 25th 2008 edited
     
    The nas version is great-thanks!!

    The only significant problem I see so far is in supra cites to cases, which are not providing the short titles, even when I fill these in by hand in the original database. In other words, I get

    , supra note ___

    instead of

    Burdine, supra note ___

    Journal article supra cites look fine.
    Again, thanks to nas and all involved
    • CommentAuthorIsis
    • CommentTimeMay 25th 2008
     
    Another question about cases that probably needs to be referred to another department. There is no place in the Case template for docket numbers. Most citation formats don't use them, but they are sometimes useful, especially for cases that are still being litigated. to whom should I address this?
    Thanks
    • CommentAuthorbdarcus
    • CommentTimeMay 25th 2008
     
    @Isis: short title should work for that case now.

    As I've said previously, from the CSL perspective, I'd just map docket number to the generic document "number." Zotero ought to do the same for its internal number.

    Do you agree?
    • CommentAuthorIsis
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2008
     
    Maybe I am being dense, but I updated the bluebook style and still can't get it to work. Here's a sample

    1 Griggs v. Duke Power Co., 401 U.S. 424 (1971).
    2 Furnco Construction Corp. v. Waters Et Al., 438 U.S. 567 (1978).
    3 , supra note___.

    My db entry for Griggs has "Griggs" filled in under short title and fn 3 should say Griggs supra note __
    • CommentAuthorIsis
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2008
     
    Dockets:

    I don't see a generic document number field. Is this something planned for the future?

    Not sure if this is responsive to your question but my main observation about docket numbers is that they are very messy and shouldn't be assigned any sort of unique identification role.

    (1) They are unique only within, not between, courts
    (2) A single docket number for a given case can be rendered in slightly different ways by different sources, like Lexis, westlaw etc.

    I l look at docket numbers as a kind of supplement to case name as a way of making sure I have the right document. It needs to be evaluated by a human in the context of all other information.
    • CommentAuthorIsis
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2008
     
    OOPS sorry, updated supra works fine. I forgot to restart after reinstalling -my bad :(

    Thanks!
    • CommentAuthorIsis
    • CommentTimeJun 18th 2008
     
    New Bluebook is great, thanks to all involved.

    One small problem seems to be whole books
    (articles in books are fine). Books are showing up as both title and author in small caps. Think this should be author plain text, Title italics (or maybe title small caps but I think this is older)

    Thanks!
    • CommentAuthorrmoberly
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2008
     
    I just downloaded everything, and I truly appreciate all of the work on the Bluebook citations! I am beginning to work with the program, and I noticed four things:
    1. My "id." is ending with two asteriks, like this: Id. at 402**
    2. The "supra note __" should have a comma between this and the page number, like this: "supra note ___, at 23." (see BB Rule 4.2)
    3. There does not appear to be any consistency with when the program puts a period at the end of a citation.
    4. I can't seem to figure out how to update all of the citations at once - do you have to update them individually (when, for example, you move footnotes around so that what was the 2nd short reference to an article becomes the 1st reference, and therefore should be in the long form).

    I am sure some of this is user error on my part, and for that I apologize. But, if there is some help/information you can provide about these issues, I would appreciate it.

    Overall, though, fantastic work - as others have noted, the BB is tricky and arcane.

    Many thanks.
    • CommentAuthorZhang
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2008
     
    \scaps T. K. McCraw\scaps0 , \scaps Creating modern capitalism\scaps0 (1997).

    why always are there some "\scaps" in the citation?
    • CommentAuthorbdarcus
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2008
     
    It's a bug.
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